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Re: Loan or Finance?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 12:58:30 pm »
I think its only on new mate but yeah i saw this. Do they move them around for you, so you dont have to travel?


No they do it on used (or maybe nearly new). They were only willing to deliver the car for my brother and said they don't have other dealerships nearer north for him to look at and test drive the car.

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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 01:24:48 pm »
I know what you mean Jules, I'm exactly the same, my car is the thing that I spend most of my time using and most of my other hobbies are free or very cheap so I might as well spend money on a car.

Exactly. i dont have kids and am training to be signed off for a role which will see me wage improve year on year, also the missus ahs given the go ahead and will pay the insurance  :laugh:
I am with you on this mate.Why wait when you can have it now
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 01:27:41 pm »
I have never signed up to this. It could take me years to collect the cash and i could die next week! My love is cars, i dont smoke, rarely drink and have few hobbies other than detailing (which requires a car) so would happily be in debt over something that made me happy  :happy2:

When you put it this way, it does make sense!!
I often think that sometimes, you could die next week and cant take money with you!! May as well live life as best you can and enjoy whatever you can, while you can!

Im not too hot on finance deals, but best of luck to you!!

How much are you looking to borrow though??

When I need to borrow money for somet I tend to get a 0% interest balance transfer card.
I transfer the balance onto that, and pay off whatever I can while its 0%.
When the 0% comes to an end, if the card isnt paid off, transfer it to anyother 0% balanace transfer card, and so on!

You need to keep an eye on minimum payments, and when the 0% offer comes to an end end, but Ive done it a few times in the past - interest free loan!

For example, every time the fixed rate on my mortgage comes to an end, I pump my savings into the mortgage before I fix it again with a better deal, and I also get a 0% card for £5k or so and stick that into the mortgage as well - that way I pay off an extra £5k of my mortgage, save on the mortgage interest, and just pay off the card interest free.
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 01:55:10 pm »
Ill either get around £10k or around £20k. Im going through some figures to see if it works out best for me to get more as i can spread it out over a few more years and pay back less also leaving me with some left over for an iMac, holidays etc

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2010, 02:06:47 pm »
I don't think finance rates are that good at the moment.

I've used PCP, HP and Unsecured Loans in the past and each has its merits.  One thing I've not used before is LP (Lease Purchase).  From what I can see it's an alternative to PCP and is punted by independant finance providers.  When I've questioned them on it they seem to try and brow beat you into but can't really give me any significant benefits.  I have used VWFS several times without a problem and wouldn't hesitate to use them again.

I will using some sort of finance on my new car.  i have a sizeable deposit to put down so shouldn't need a massive amount so I've been keeping quite an eye on current rates.
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2010, 06:47:19 pm »
Buying outright will be cheapest. Loans slightly more expensive and PCP costs even more.

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2010, 06:54:31 pm »
Lease Purchase is very simillar to a PCP but the main difference is with a LP is that the balloon figure is not guarunteed. So you can defer a larger balloon figure but if it all goes tits up you wont have the hand back option at the end.

To the op how much deposit are you looking to put down? If its more than 30% of the value of the car you wont be able to go on a PCP.


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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2010, 07:59:16 pm »
Lease agreement means no mods.

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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2010, 08:46:38 pm »
Lease agreement means no mods.

yeah but plenty still do it  :surprised: :confused:

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2010, 10:17:57 pm »
I'm sure someone will point out if I'm wrong - but I'm 100% sure that unless you buy outright, then you should get a personal loan.

Try your bank first (they understand your balance etc) and are more likely to give you a good rate then try others money supermarket is a genuinely good way to see the market. Be aware that rates will be tailored to your credit rating good or bad will mean varying rates - however even a 'bad' personal loan from the major banks etc will be better than a finance deal from the dealers.. garage in the long run.

Don't do gimmicks, cash back crap - nothing is free in this world! ;) keep it straight simple.

ps. Also be careful how many times you apply for a loan - it will effect your rating after 3 or so trys So don't just try lots of places - use the comparison sites and then cherry pick the few you think are good and may accept you.

So in summary..

1. Try your bank (if you have a good banking history with them)
2. Personal loan is the way forward if you don't have the £ in cash - not many do
3. Don't worry to much about a small rate difference of just look at the end figures - there is never much between them unless your talking upwards of 3%
4. Personal loans mean YOU own the car and you if you scratch it well only you have to worry about it!  :smiley:
5. Enjoy the car!!  :happy2:

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2010, 10:28:52 pm »
finance it on HP. Then if it turns out to be a dog, you can dump your problems onto the finance company, as its a tri party agreement.

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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 08:39:23 pm »
If you havent got the cash to hand, dont buy the car.
Personally i wouldnt want to get into debt over a car. My mortage is the only debt I have, and the only one I ever want to have!

That is a ridiculous quote, and lucky you for having lots of money to buy what you want.  I always buy cars on a lease purchase, with a large enough deposit, so I'm always the right way round.  Large lumps of cash should be used to pay off your mortgage, not buy cars.  But hey it good we are all different!

In my humble view, cars should be looked at as a tool for getting around and business(alright a very nice tool), but paid for on a monthly basis, so at the  end the depreciation doesn't look too bad!
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 08:41:37 pm »
Oh and remember, if you do finance it, because of the halves rules on a regulated agreement, once you have paid half the total amount payable, you can just hand the car back to the finance company, as long as its in a servicable conditon - Bonus!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 08:48:50 pm »
My basic opinions are

If your looking to mod the car get a Loan.

If you want the minimum monthly payment and will probably look to change the car every 3 years get a PCP.

If you want the in-between get a Hire purchase agreement.

With all VWFS finance agreements (except Contract hire) if you buy the car from a main dealer there are no early settlement charges.

You can modify the car on HP and LP, the car is yours, unless you stop paying and then it wont make any difference, as it will be repossessed, and sold at auction and they will come after you for the shortfall!

PCP is expensive as they guarantee the balloon, Lease purchase is essentially the same, but no guaranteed balloon, so less risk for the finance company, so cheaper.

Most finance companies only charge 1 months interested if you settle early, unless it is scratchers finance!
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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2010, 08:51:17 pm »
My basic opinions are

If your looking to mod the car get a Loan.

If you want the minimum monthly payment and will probably look to change the car every 3 years get a PCP.

If you want the inbetween get a Hire purchase agreement.

With all VWFS finance agreements (except Contract hire) if you buy the car from a main dealer there are no early settlement charges.

I agree with this...if you can't buy outright. :smiley:
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