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Offline paulk

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2010, 05:43:36 pm »
my aet hybrid made stronger and more constant power rather than more

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #91 on: June 16, 2010, 05:43:50 pm »
stick yours on the hurdy. get a comparison that way :grin:

I've mentioned that to Steve, so I'll see if I can get up there tomorrow :happy2:
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #92 on: June 16, 2010, 05:44:48 pm »
Is it not a case of his peak figure is made earlier and held for longer which could account for why it's quicker :confused:

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #93 on: June 16, 2010, 05:44:57 pm »
my aet hybrid made stronger and more constant power rather than more

That is why I want to check out the graph as it is the area under the power/torque line that counts.
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #94 on: June 16, 2010, 05:52:06 pm »
 :happy2:....383 is big power any ways

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2010, 04:48:39 pm »
Okay guys, I have an update on the hybrid.....

The dyno run yesterday was on a baseline map supplied from GIAC with a ZERO ignition timing setting and was a map for the equivalent of 96ron fuel. Also they had put in the torque limiters, so Steve wouldn't see large figures from torque. So to put that into perspective, it would be like me setting REVO to zero on the timing setting and then running the car on 95 ron fuel :confused:

This was done deliberately by GIAC so that when Steve Jr came back to them he could confirm if the engine was running with any retardation - which it wasn't. GIAC will be downloading another map today that will give around 3 degrees of timing and for 99 ron fuelling. The estimation from GIAC is around 5-10% more power and higher torque. If all this goes well and the logs are still good, then GIAC will supply a more agressive map.

Steve didn't jump the gun, he was hoping to make the power figures straight off, but hadn't been told the ignition timing had been left out of the tune.

That still means that there is quite a bit more power to come  :evilgrin:
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #96 on: June 17, 2010, 04:53:41 pm »

Bet steves fredders going to and from Nobles  :confused:

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #97 on: June 17, 2010, 05:43:13 pm »
so what  were saying is even on 95 ron the hybrid was quicker than the k04 running 99 ron :surprised:

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #98 on: June 17, 2010, 06:15:40 pm »
All talk and no numbers so far...   <runs for cover>
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #99 on: June 18, 2010, 07:17:54 pm »
so what  were saying is even on 95 ron the hybrid was quicker than the k04 running 99 ron :surprised:

Yep, that's about the size of it :laugh:

All talk and no numbers so far...   <runs for cover>

 :P

I for one can't wait for the new numbers :jumping:
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2010, 07:29:35 pm »
Ok just gonna throw my 2p in there.. (ignore if you like)  :wink:

Firstly.. Turbo Dynamics refusing to take 'used' turbo's due to excessive bearing wear is a total joke!! Any worth while turbo 'tuner' should be able to replace bearings.. Turbo Dynamics are doing the absolute bear minimum with the turbo..

Owen Developments have developed their own motorsport spec journal bearing for the turbo, and can offer HTA wheels.. Even then, the K04 'hybrid' is never going to be a worth while investment.. Hence why I didn't bother over 18 months ago when it was discussed..

Sorry, but £1800 for installing a cast wheel and porting the intake?? Yeah.. Not a bad deal at all..  :grin:

All will come clear after Inters.. When everone is making excuses on the Monday as to why they were slower than expected..  :indifferent:
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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #101 on: June 18, 2010, 07:35:59 pm »
not sure about that jonny, it is only 650 to have the work done mate + the cost of a turbo... Totally agree about what you are saying about the overhauling of a used turbo though.

I think it will defo see 400bhp IMHO.

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #102 on: June 18, 2010, 07:37:59 pm »
it might see 400bhp  :laugh: but i can tell you this stick it on jkm rollers and i dont think it will be over 390bhp

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #103 on: June 18, 2010, 07:40:39 pm »
are they wrong like???

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Re: ED30 - K04 hybrid!
« Reply #104 on: June 18, 2010, 07:55:26 pm »
its a dyno lottery with most cars and i think to get true results the same car needs running on a few rollers to get a few results as most tuners can play with results if they need to

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box