new linear remap for REVO??

[Janner_Sy]

found this on my evening forum trawl.  thought a few guys would be interested.

this is a guy from SCN(blade).  ran GIAC before, but didint want to chane his intake to run the extreme map, so he went revo instead and got their new linear delivery map

It was the fact that GIAC insisted on the VF intake that infuriated me. Anyway i have now moved on to Revo and as iv,e said earlier they really looked after me and gave me what i wanted.

The file i have is called a Linear acceleration map. It was explained to me like this ( if you need more info give them a bell.)

Martyn who drives their K1, wanted a file that would give him more control of the throttle and thought the large surge of torque the regular file delivers actually hindered progress. Apparently when you request say 30% throttle with the fly by wire system the actual amount delivered could be more like 36 - 38%. This file gives a 1 to 1 ratio so if you want 30% you get it, hence the driver gets a lot more positive feel for what the tyres are doing. I was surprised to learn that their car does,nt,t have a diff - apparently this map does what it says. That's good for me as i was just about to put a diff in mine but won,t bother now.

First impressions are very good. The throttle feels more like the old cable affair, you feel as though your right foot is directly in contact with the boost. Compared to my previous GIAC file there is definitely not as much torque in the lower rev range but i suppose that will save my clutch. The car is a real rev monster now and boy does it pull hard at the top end.

Revo liberated another 35psi on my fuel rail and gave me another 5 psi boost. I am running B9 T7 F6 on V power and Carl said i could max out the timing with octane booster providing i log the car first to make sure there,s not too much timing pull. This file may not suit everyone but at least you now have a choice. I can,t see this file being of any benefit to those already with a diff.

i find it very interesting that the guy who runs revo's demo leon k1 thought that their normal map power delivery hindered progress.  this new linear map does sound better though

[RedRobin]

found this on my evening forum trawl.  thought a few guys would be interested.

this is a guy from SCN (blade):

I can't see this file being of any benefit to those already with a diff.

....I can't see why a more linear remap cancels out the benefit of a diff. Is he saying he was getting too much wheelspin before? A diff does more than help reduce wheelspin.

[Rob GTI]

I wonder if you can change for a stock REVO file to this new one without having to pay the whole £500 or so?

[Garth]

That sounds interesting. I would definately have been interested when I got Revo on my Ibiza Cupra a few years ago. That power delivery was:

Nothing..... nothing.... nothing....Whoa, SH1T, EVERYTHING!

Needless to say the wheelspin could be immense if you weren't careful. I like the sound of a linear map though. Some might not like it as by the saounds of it, it should drive more like an NA car, therefore having no turbo shove in the back feel.

[vRS Carl]

....I can't see why a more linear remap cancels out the benefit of a diff. Is he saying he was getting too much wheelspin before? A diff does more than help reduce wheelspin.

I think the point he is making is that the map means more progressive acceleration thus reducing wheelspin. I suppose Wheelspin is the main reason a lot of people get a diff. Unless you drive like you stole it everywhere or do track days then there would be little point in the diff for normal road use apart from reducing spin.

As you point out though a diff does more than help reduce wheelspin  

[RedRobin]

^^^^
I find my Revo2 map is very progressive/linear but of course my suspension mods help get the power down and the rest is progressive use of my right foot.

The twisties in my neck of the woods beg for the diff. Even very high speed sweeping bends feel better planted.

Many, not all, of the Cupra boyz seem to think they have something to prove and go for big bhp power and hence the traction problems.

[Poverty]

the way I read it is that it makes the pedal more accurate to how much you actually press it, and not how the power is delivered.

So basically now when you depress the accelerator by 50% you get 50% of available power. The cars are standard currently dont respond to throttle inputs accurately, which can make modulating the throttle tricky at times, and can end up as a on off switch

[Poverty]

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Many, not all, of the Cupra boyz seem to think they have something to prove and go for big bhp power and hence the traction problems.

Get a grip robin, there are plenty of cupras out there with sh*t loads of chassis mods that makes your chassis mods look mediocre. Plus 90% of people alwayts do power first, and then once thats done start on the chassis.

[RedRobin]

the way I read it is that it makes the pedal more accurate to how much you actually press it, and not how the power is delivered.

So basically now when you depress the accelerator by 50% you get 50% of available power. The cars are standard currently dont respond to throttle inputs accurately, which can make modulating the throttle tricky at times, and can end up as a on off switch

....That's as may be but it's pretty academic. Your brain's coordination will automatically adapt to whatever reaction your right foot actions.

[RedRobin]

Many, not all, of the Cupra boyz seem to think they have something to prove and go for big bhp power and hence the traction problems.

Get a grip robin, there are plenty of cupras out there with sh*t loads of chassis mods that makes your chassis mods look mediocre. Plus 90% of people alwayts do power first, and then once thats done start on the chassis.

....Woohoo! Hook, line, and sinker!   Cool it Cupra Boy  

[Poverty]

the way I read it is that it makes the pedal more accurate to how much you actually press it, and not how the power is delivered.

So basically now when you depress the accelerator by 50% you get 50% of available power. The cars are standard currently dont respond to throttle inputs accurately, which can make modulating the throttle tricky at times, and can end up as a on off switch

....That's as may be but it's pretty academic. Your brain's coordination will automatically adapt to whatever reaction your right foot actions.

Not really, as its nothing, nothing nothing, then all of a sudden you get power, hence why this map has been made. You have to depress the accelerator too much to make any progress, and the modulation window is much too small to get the perfect power input.

[CarrG]

Hmm interesting. As Rob says  i wonder on the cost when you already have Revo.

[Blade]

As long as your stage2+ Revo won,t charge for the file. Your dealer might charge for his time though. Give it a go and see what you think.

[CarrG]

As long as your stage2+ Revo won,t charge for the file. Your dealer might charge for his time though. Give it a go and see what you think.

Cheers Blade i'll get on the phone now. Do you know if they have a trial? 

[NB07]

is it possibe to have both the maps on the switch then? im not sure about it though as my delivery feels pretty linear as it is, havnt had it rolling roaded though so not 100%