Make a donation

Author Topic: Which software do you feel is better.... APR or Revo... And why, PLEASE!!  (Read 12459 times)

Offline Abz001

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 55
honestly give Ben a shout he will take the map you have save it and then show you the difference, this service is free :)

Offline Sunglasses Ron

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 11
  • -Receive: 15
  • Posts: 2067
    • Email
Wrote a map for a new S8 and gave the boy nearly 600BHP!!! so well worth a look and not as expensive as REVO.

I thought the S8 was a N/A 5.2 V10 (444bhp)?  :confused: Can't see how they can extract 156bhp out that with a simple map in a hurry..

Offline Edition_30_P

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 377
  • Edition 30 P
    • Email
I was thinking the said thing about the Turbo! As Tuningwerkes is our local and was just down the road thats wheree my mate took it.
I've heard a few good things about Shark and also been hearing a bit about GIAC, too!! So, I still have a lot of researching to do as to where my Money goes but, I'm not going to be making my decision of this event!!
MK5 Golf GTI Edition 30|APR Stage 2+|Milltek Non Res TBE Decat|ITG Intake| Forge Twintercooler|Autotech HPFP Internals|Forge DV|R8 Oil Cap|AP Coilovers|WALK Kit|ECS Dog Mount| THS Mounts|Eibach F&R Anti Roll Bars|Sachs Uprated Clutch

Offline PDT

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 142
  • Posts: 2010
    • Email
This type of thing happens all of the time after mapping, a car that has been driven 'normally' for most of its life suddenly has 45bhp and loads of torque released and it gets driven hard for the next few days as the driver gets used to the new found fun.

If it was the remap that caused the failure then EVERY revo map on every 140 Tdi surely blows its turbo after a few miles? well no, but the odd car might have issues when its pushed hard all of a sudden, especially cars that may have had a turbo on the way out already.

The turbo on the PD140's are exremely prone to blowinh, mine blew on a completely standard car at just 13k miles! In the last 6 months I must have changed 20+ PD140 turbo's, but to my knowledge only 1 of these cars was mapped. I also highly doubt that the ECU is dead, how is it dead? what are the symptoms? how has it been tested?

Offline Thor

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 27
  • -Receive: 25
  • Posts: 713


 :popcornsoda: :rolleye:

I'd bet my left knacker that this is not anything directly to do with Revo.. Turbo might of been on it's way out already etc and the map may of finished it off (but so would any software).. As for the ECU being gone, i'm not entirely sure what you mean there mate?  :confused:

With you all the way there Ben :happy2:, I've blown turbos on derv burners that don't have maps.  faulty blower for sure and the additional load has finished it off.   :popcornsoda:
Gone but not forgotten - Edition 30 No.2239
                                     Mk6 GTI

Offline wigit

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 129
  • -Receive: 42
  • Posts: 1825
    • Email
how was the Eddy on the way home Thor  :jumping:

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
After my experience with another mapper at GTI i highly recommend Ben and Nico @ Shark Performance, they take the map and writes it for your car giving you the best performance instead of a generic remap - thus giving me out of a 200BHP engine 257BHP and improved MPG.

Wrote a map for a new S8 and gave the boy nearly 600BHP!!! so well worth a look and not as expensive as REVO.

hes done some very big power audi's, i think thats where he made his name to begin with.

Looking at your graph in comparison to mine as well(because im a geek like that :sad1:)  your figures are very comparable to mine all the way up until 5k where mine tails of with heat soak, and yours carries on pulling up until 6.5k.   :congrats:  the shape o both are graphs is very closely correlated which is good

Offline jmspear

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 6
  • -Receive: 11
  • Posts: 240
In the interests of total fairness (and donning a flameproof suit) I think you need to consider the following:

1) Only go with a reputable company who have a (very) strong customer reputation to consider, or a company who has built up a rep the hard way, for example, Superchips, APR, Revo have gold standard brands to protect and customer reputation to protect, shark have an awesome rep as an up and coming working hard to build their rep tuner

2) Only go with a company that has great feedback from many users, all above have that (yes everyone of them has customers with niggles (excepting have heard nothing bad about shark but don't have the installed base of SC, APR and Revo all of whom have a few bad press comments which is going to happen when many cars out there prob have hidden issues that only come to light when you rechip but by and large have a very large and very happy customer base) )

3) Ideally decide where you want to end up before you start, i started with superchips (which IMHO are great for modest modification levels and have a great rep with K04 cars with higher levels of mods) because I only wanted a software upgrade on my K03 car I loved the bluefin and the lower cost,  and then went for CAI, TBE and HPFP (so with 20:20 hindsight should have probably went Revo from the start cause of fine tuning ability) but to be honest stage 2+ SC has made the power I wanted 275 HP, 315lbft rr on a independant who offer a different chipping manufacturer so believe them! (PSI tuning - in Stoke (newcastle under lyme actually top guys highly recommeded by me!))

4) Finally go with a local tuner who knows what they are doing and can offer a high quality local service / Back up, probably more important than any of above points (I bought my HFP from Dave at PDT, top guy just wish he was closer (really is very very helpful and knowledgeable and I would def trust my car / chip choice to him, JKM and Jabba also great reputations - which is nearest to you?) as I am in the South West / west mids border and he is in the North East and I am Glos, I went SC and PSI, But Dave offered to drive down from the North East, how good is that for service!).

Hope above helps and is more practical than the I love my chip, I make a zillion HP and beat everyone else on the dyno and  the others are crap advice which is all too revalent on the forums ;-)

cheers

John (hides and awaits abuse)


Offline Edition_30_P

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 377
  • Edition 30 P
    • Email
Ay first it threw me that the day after he got the map this happens! But, I was thinking on the way home it was an ex business Car which had Motor way mileage. So, the extra strain of the map on the Turbo would'nt have helped!!!

I don't want anyone to think I'm blaming Revo because, I'm not!!
MK5 Golf GTI Edition 30|APR Stage 2+|Milltek Non Res TBE Decat|ITG Intake| Forge Twintercooler|Autotech HPFP Internals|Forge DV|R8 Oil Cap|AP Coilovers|WALK Kit|ECS Dog Mount| THS Mounts|Eibach F&R Anti Roll Bars|Sachs Uprated Clutch

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jmspear sums it up very well
 :congrats: :congrats:

Offline Sunglasses Ron

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 11
  • -Receive: 15
  • Posts: 2067
    • Email
how was the Eddy on the way home Thor  :jumping:

Yeah, how's the new present you bought yourself?  :jumping:

Offline Edition_30_P

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 377
  • Edition 30 P
    • Email
That review was bloody helpful, thank you!! My closest dealer is Tuningwerkes in South Croydon, London. Theres AVIT in Slough and The Phirm which aren't too far butthats just me being lazy!! I'm gonna look in to all the  other tuners that have been mentioned in this topic and compare
MK5 Golf GTI Edition 30|APR Stage 2+|Milltek Non Res TBE Decat|ITG Intake| Forge Twintercooler|Autotech HPFP Internals|Forge DV|R8 Oil Cap|AP Coilovers|WALK Kit|ECS Dog Mount| THS Mounts|Eibach F&R Anti Roll Bars|Sachs Uprated Clutch

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
for shark performance your best bet is to go onto briskoda or tyre smoke, as that is where he loiters

Offline Jules86

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 46
  • Posts: 562
    • Forumwars
    • Email
That review was bloody helpful, thank you!! My closest dealer is Tuningwerkes in South Croydon, London. Theres AVIT in Slough and The Phirm which aren't too far butthats just me being lazy!! I'm gonna look in to all the  other tuners that have been mentioned in this topic and compare

Im in Croydon mate and im looking at AMD for revo with a SPS. Its currently on offer and works out around £630 for both.

Offline Edition_30_P

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 6
  • Posts: 377
  • Edition 30 P
    • Email
How far is AMD from Croydon? The deal at Inters for the Map and the SPS box for the Ed30 priced at 399 was a bloody deal! Probably woulda gone for it but, sttill researching and want to get the right one  :happy2:
MK5 Golf GTI Edition 30|APR Stage 2+|Milltek Non Res TBE Decat|ITG Intake| Forge Twintercooler|Autotech HPFP Internals|Forge DV|R8 Oil Cap|AP Coilovers|WALK Kit|ECS Dog Mount| THS Mounts|Eibach F&R Anti Roll Bars|Sachs Uprated Clutch