Golf r mk5 not mk6 engine?

[parks]

Just read a few things about the R and thought it said that the engine was from the mk5 rather than mk6? Surely the mk6 would be newer and 'better'?

Any reason for this?

[182_blue]

Just read a few things about the R and thought it said that the engine was from the mk5 rather than mk6? Surely the mk6 would be newer and 'better'?

Any reason for this?

its the engine from the Edition 30 (audi s3, cupra), or at least a version of it,  its not from the normal MK5 GTi, the reason i guess is more powerful and no new development needed etc etc for a small run model

[Janner_Sy]

no.  the mk6 gti  is 207ps and only tunes to around 280-290hp.  there is no k04 varient as of yet.

the Golf R has the engine from the mk5 ed30(not std GTI).   its more accurate really to say itas the S3 engine though as it comes with the S3 uprated intercooler as standard.  these engines are tunable to 350-360Hp, so whilst the TSI is the newer its not quite better yet.

Although i hear the TSI takes to a K04 turbo very very well

[Jules86]

Doesnt have the intercooler from the S3, at least TEFFs didnt. It is more like an ED30 engine

[chungster]

Not S3 in terms of no Alloy end tanks, but had it confirmed this week inlet/outlet sizes are 63mm vs the 50mm of the standard GTI version.

 

[182_blue]

Doesnt have the intercooler from the S3, at least TEFFs didnt. It is more like an ED30 engine

Actually if the Golf R has the same intercooler as the Rocco R then it has a different version to the Mk5 and the Audi S3 (as it has bigger Inlets and outlets).

(info from Chungster's R build)

[182_blue]

LOL, beat me to it Chungster 

[182_blue]

Not S3 in terms of no Alloy end tanks, but had it confirmed this week inlet/outlet sizes are 63mm vs the 50mm of the standard GTI version.

 

Do you have the original one still ?

[Jules86]

At least VW are not lazy and do differ each engine 

[Janner_Sy]

i stand corrrected. is it the same core size as the S3 then?

[parks]

Would have thought they'd put a KO4 onto the mk6 lump, best of both worlds no?

[182_blue]

Would have thought they'd put a KO4 onto the mk6 lump, best of both worlds no?

now I'm no expert but I'm guessing it's all about cost, the edition 30 /s3 engine is developed and in production, they would need to throw lots of development and cash at the MK6 motor to have it running the K04

[bacillus]

There are kits in the US to convert the ihi turbo to a k04 one so it can't be that difficult.

[182_blue]

There are kits in the US to convert the ihi turbo to a k04 one so it can't be that difficult.

That's aftermarket though, you can do anything you like after it's left the factory, VW can't just bolt in a K04 and hope for the best, there must be other things they need to consider like emissions etc etc

[Janner_Sy]

tbh, the k04 TFSI is a solid strong exccellent engine.  no need to change it IMO.  the TSI engine only really improved on the k03 TFSI IMO