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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 07:34:51 pm »
Infact just go on superchips rollers and get 500+ if your after numbers on a sheet  :signLOL:

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 07:35:22 pm »
PDT...

Do you have a dyno graph for your own demo car that we can see with this 368bhp?


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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 07:35:27 pm »
Surrey RR day results( dyno dynamics)
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Hedge        327/308
NB07          300/306
Mitch          Not running right, didn't take the figure down
Phil Mcavity 292/297
Wigit           300/315
Oli               305/295
Skavia         293/275
Mark            280/268 (faulty MAF)
Pako           292/282
Robin          245/280
NeilM          334/303
Knight        249/230
Pummy       308/283
CupraK1     323/308
DanGB        391/365 :jumpmove:
CMDFire      229/245 (not boosting properly)
DomT          330/310
Thor            224/207
Stu              335/338

Hedge, neil M, DomT and stu were the stage 2+ cars.  So they are pretty similar to JKMs results as well.  so they are still 30Hp lower than yours!!  Cupra K1 left there and went to another set of DD rollers that day (in the vid i posted earlier) where it was jumping off the rtollers.  it then pulled 350hp

the biggest variations i notice between rollers though is torque. 

Question for PDT

AMD run the cars in 5th (they say 1 gear lower than top is the best way to run them)
JKM say 4th as its the nearest 1:1 ratio
you say 3rd 

any particular reason?
« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 07:43:45 pm by Janner_Sy »

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 07:58:29 pm »
What do you reckon a k03 is capable of?  :confused:

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 08:03:37 pm »
people recon 280 as like the maximum you’d ever get dependant on dynos but 260 - 270 realistically

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 08:05:27 pm »
one off, mega boost, generous roller...300bhp.

in reality...270-280 is prolly the max IMO.


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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 08:08:59 pm »
What do you reckon a k03 is capable of?  :confused:

ive had over 290hp on Amds rollers with superchips stage 2+.  made 252hp on JKms rollers though, supersh!ts proper pants i tell thee.

Highest i have ever seen is 280Hp on JKms rolers however not many k03 cars have replicated it since.  the highest ive seen since then is timmys shark performance stage 3(2+) which made 274Hp at the last RR day.  vRS carls makes 265ish consistently with the revo stage 2+ on his althogh there is something happening to it on the rollers that no one can work out though,

have a look through the dyno thread
« Last Edit: December 22, 2010, 08:11:57 pm by Janner_Sy »

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2010, 08:34:02 pm »
Great info guys  :happy2: I have had a look through the Dyno thread Janner_Sy and it's mainly k04 powered cars on there.
From what you guys are saying, Revo's claim of 260bhp from a stage 1 map seems totally unrealistic.  :indifferent:

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2010, 09:18:59 pm »
 

Question for PDT

AMD run the cars in 5th (they say 1 gear lower than top is the best way to run them)
JKM say 4th as its the nearest 1:1 ratio
you say 3rd 

any particular reason?


Dynodynamics reccomend running a car in third gear during shootout power testing, however most fwd big power stuff does require 4th gear to get traction. The power figures rarely alter if you test a car in third then fourth, as long as the car hits full load that is.  It can vary from car to car, but 3/4 gears are normal for a dynodynamics.

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2010, 09:29:25 pm »
Also worth mentioning that I use a full decat and not a sports cat, this allows a much more aggressive ignition timing setting and leaner mixture as I dont need to worry about EGT's getting too high.

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2010, 09:37:52 pm »
Great info guys  :happy2: I have had a look through the Dyno thread Janner_Sy and it's mainly k04 powered cars on there.
From what you guys are saying, Revo's claim of 260bhp from a stage 1 map seems totally unrealistic.  :indifferent:

100% unrealistic.  240Hp is normal for stage 1, 260hp normal for stage 2

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2010, 10:33:56 pm »
 

Question for PDT

AMD run the cars in 5th (they say 1 gear lower than top is the best way to run them)
JKM say 4th as its the nearest 1:1 ratio
you say 3rd 

any particular reason?


Dynodynamics reccomend running a car in third gear during shootout power testing, however most fwd big power stuff does require 4th gear to get traction. The power figures rarely alter if you test a car in third then fourth, as long as the car hits full load that is.  It can vary from car to car, but 3/4 gears are normal for a dynodynamics.

so its nothing to do with gear ratio's at all?

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2010, 10:47:51 pm »
Great info guys  :happy2: I have had a look through the Dyno thread Janner_Sy and it's mainly k04 powered cars on there.
From what you guys are saying, Revo's claim of 260bhp from a stage 1 map seems totally unrealistic.  :indifferent:

100% unrealistic.  240Hp is normal for stage 1, 260hp normal for stage 2


You can achieve 250+ from a stage1 with the right map  :wink: 

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2010, 10:55:04 pm »
Great info guys  :happy2: I have had a look through the Dyno thread Janner_Sy and it's mainly k04 powered cars on there.
From what you guys are saying, Revo's claim of 260bhp from a stage 1 map seems totally unrealistic.  :indifferent:

100% unrealistic.  240Hp is normal for stage 1, 260hp normal for stage 2


You can achieve 250+ from a stage1 with the right map  :wink:  

and the right rollers :wink: :grin:

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Re: 370bhp from a Edition 30 Stage 2??
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2010, 11:16:12 pm »
So because JKM read lower figures then they must be right :indifferent:

When comparing againt other cars lets say mk2 FRS with around 400hp how can a stage 2+ car with a whopping 70hp less still keep up and the weight aint that much difference  :confused:

^^^ the above is assuming JKM are perfect in every way and the max is 330hp from a K04.

The numbers or lack of just dont add up unless of course, other tuners for differnt maker of car are wrong aswell and perhaps should go to jkm for there power claims before saying the new kit for there mk2 FRS is 400hp or 300hp for a VXR etc etc etc.

Believe me when i say the difference between a 300hp VXR and a jkm confirmed 330hp stage 2+ K04 is a fair bit more than just 30hp!