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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #600 on: June 03, 2013, 09:14:31 am »
Thank you! It was an instinctual save.
I was lucky once again. I know it's just a matter of time till my luck runs out but I hope nothing major will happen when it eventually does.
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #601 on: June 04, 2013, 08:49:11 am »
One of your most enjoyable to watch laps on Hring!. It looks really smooth, with perfect transitions, and still very very fast and close to the limit (sometimes a bit beyond... and that was just an opportunity for a nice save  :happy2:). The lap time speaks for itself.

If we put aside the timing and think about fun, I guess it would be very nice to watch the very first session of the day :pomppomp:

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #602 on: June 04, 2013, 03:10:45 pm »
Ha ha, you have a good point! I've seen the first lap only once and I have to see it again. If there's anything to learn either from my mistakes or from my saves for sure I will post it.
Too bad you missed this Hungaroring track day because I was really miss the chase and I was curious to see if you still are faster than me in the straights...
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #603 on: June 07, 2013, 06:47:21 pm »
Well, Stefan, here is the video you requested with the first session of the day (first lap of the first session):



The tires were cold and the weather was very cold so it was an interesting session. I knew the car would oversteer but I was overconfident in my skills.
Firstly, in the first bend, I was 99,99% sure the car would oversteer so I was, lets say, prepared for it. But, as you can see in the video, I did not handle it well. I was expecting a nice drift but there was no such thing  :chicken:.
Than, I started to warm up the tires and I was throwing the car around mid corner. Some corners the car did not need to be throw to oversteer. It was very, very interesting.
Lastly, at 2:12 I wanted to have some fun with the car and try to control a bigger oversteer. Unfortunately, this time I wasn't even close, so I ended up doing a tete-a-queue. I remember this corner perfectly and this is how it all happened: I looked in the rear view mirrors to see that nobody was around. Knowing this was a place with a large runoff I knew not much could happen... I went a little bit too fast in that corner and the back began to slide. I steered in the opposite direction and pushed the throttle. But surprisingly, the car did not respond to my commands and continued to oversteer. So I steered more to the left hoping that would resolve the situation. Then, surprisingly, the car did a 180 degrees turn in the opposite direction. I was really surprised and I was just a passenger when this happened. I did not expect it to be so violent. Of course the engine died but at least I was safe and sound and I, once more, I have seen my limits.
I was expecting to solve the oversteer in a similar fashion to a rally car on gravel (I did this during my race driver training) but those oversteers were nothing like the oversteers at Hungaoring. My car is much more stable than the gravel rally cars and when I loose traction I find it harder to control the slide...
During both of the slides, the hand movement on the steering wheel is rubbish! I manage to turn the steering wheel quite fast but I am doing that with the wrong hand :grin:. I should be steering with the right hand when turning right and with the left had when turning left.

This is not a video I am proud of, because it clearly shows my limits. But I think all of us should learn to push our limits in a safe and controlled environment (and not on the streets).
Hope I am mature enough not to try this at Nurburgring!  :grin:

All the best!

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #604 on: June 12, 2013, 05:05:51 pm »
Ha ha, massive fun! It reminds me of my first lap with brand new and cold semislicks. It's obvious you were looking for it, and that was actually the right thing to do  :grin: . I think any given opportunity to try and practice car control in a safe environment should be properly used, since there aren't so many (for me at least).

I've heard from others that B16 is quite violent and hard to grab when it goes beyond a certain point, but I think one mistake we do (by "we" I mean people who don't quite master drifting and rear sliding, me included of course) is that we tend to use more the steering to get out of the drift, when we actually should use the gas more. It seems to me the same happened to you when you spun. If you had used more gas with less steering input from the start, it would have been probably a nice drift. Instead, you steered more and more and when the engine started to build up revs, it threw you in the opposite direction (according to the steering angle of the wheels). Of course there's a long way from theory to practice, and unfortunately that's what we miss... practice. It should be kind of easy for us (having FWD) to just give it gas and a low steering input to control a rear slide, but my brain and instinct often commands only my hands to turn the wheel a lot and my foot to keep just a slight positive gas. Sometimes I'm lucky, sometimes not :).

I also hope you'll resist the temptation to try this on the Ring, as I wouldn't call it quite a safe environment :)) and you are quite a naughty boy :P (I can clearly remember you tempting me to do some "nasty" things on a soaking Nordschleife last year... fortunately my limits were very clear to me :)) )



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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #605 on: June 13, 2013, 05:28:20 pm »
Thanks for the comment Stefan!
You have a good point about recovering from an oversteer. I used to much steering angle and when I regained traction the car trowed me in the opposite direction.
I definitely need much more practice until I can make a nice and clean recovery. Unfortunately, by controlling the car at low speeds over gravel and snow I lean nothing. The semislicks go from immense grip to none and back very quickly and I am nowhere near prepared for that.

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #606 on: June 20, 2013, 11:26:15 am »
Time for some minor updates....

1. The Pagid RS 4-4 Orange pads needed replacing after one year of daily drive and trackdays. Although I was really happy with the current setup I wanted something different and I chose the Pagid RS-29 Yellow pads. I managed to install the pads yesterday and there was no time for bedding them in so I can't offer a review yet. Here are some photos:











2. I will try to get rid of the rear wiper, so I bought these:



Hope to do the operation this weekend (not sure if I have the time).

3. I tinted the tail lights but not enough for my taste so I will redo the operation and post some pictures when I am done.

All the best!  :driver:

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #607 on: June 20, 2013, 06:11:06 pm »
Good, these pads should have much better byte at higher speeds !
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #608 on: June 21, 2013, 09:22:08 am »
Honestly, if they are as good as the RS 4-4 ones but last longer, I am, very, very happy.
Can't wait to test them on the Ring  :smiley:  :driver:

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #609 on: June 21, 2013, 07:41:36 pm »
I didn't realise but I took some pics of this at Spa in 2011. Noticed as I was looking through my pics.
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #610 on: June 22, 2013, 04:54:42 pm »
Nice !  :happy2:
Can you please post them over here or send them to vlad_panut@yahoo.com?
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #611 on: June 22, 2013, 08:55:33 pm »
I managed to remove the rear wiper!

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After:





I really like how it looks without the rear wiper!
Not to mention I managed to save about 1 KG (that's how much the rear wiper weighs)  :grin:  :evilgrin:

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #612 on: June 23, 2013, 07:29:35 am »
Only the wiper or motor included ?
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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #613 on: June 24, 2013, 07:40:35 am »
Aproximatly 1kg for the whole assembly (motor included). I didn't quite have time to weigh them but they are really light...

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Re: Sunset Red 1.4 TSI(TFSI) GT Sport - daily drive & track car
« Reply #614 on: July 09, 2013, 09:29:39 am »
Hi Rex,
I really like the look of clean rear end on your car!

Could you tell me please where you got the wiper delete kit from?

Ta.