Is there anyone has gone Stg2/2+ and wished they had not?

[berg]

just read all 4 pages of this thread again, very interesting, will go smoke a hamlet cigar and have a think...

[RedRobin]

yes but you cant up the power and not think about how the car is going to react to it so you need to sort the  handling out and how that extra power is going to get on to the road instead of losing it and the car pulling all over the place so having the extra power is a waste. But thats only what i think 

....It's also what I think 

[RedRobin]

just read all 4 pages of this thread again, very interesting, will go smoke a hamlet cigar and have a think...

[E30Dom]

So does JKM's stage2 package sound a good compromise, with HPFP, TBE, Air filter and software? Surely this would be enough, then ust uprated brakes/suspension?


Dom..

p.s. only ask as this is the way I wanna go.. :)

[TrickGTI]

IMO i think the gti is a more than capable car running stage 2+. im running stage 2+ and find yes the car may roll slightly but from a recent track day iv just being on the car shocked me as such, the brakes were spot on smelt slightly but never faded and never warped. suspension slight roll and understeer but overall very balanced and stable. I personally feel that to spend lots of money on chassis mods before you get chance to fully test and feel the limits of the car then its just a case of all the gear and no idea. I think most the criticism of the cars ability on standard chassis form is down to driver error. sure if i was to start doing more track days id consider uprateing some items to make it better but for the general driver road use its 100% fine and for the odd track day and anything other id say upgrade.

[PDT]

STG2+ is very safe, the whole theory of it being 'too much for the engine' is just that, a theory. The TFSi is still a vastly unexplored engine and its true potential will show in the coming years as they become cheaper and more engines appear on the used market. Much the same happened with the 1.8t and other engines.

[micky 32]

I wouldn't drop a stage back from my vRS ko4'd stage 3 (similiar to ED30 stage2+). It's way more fun than when i was ko3 stage2+. Also i have done huge mileage on it and nothing has broken apart from a burst rear shock. Keep the AFR in check and it should be ok.

[berg]

STG2+ is very safe, the whole theory of it being 'too much for the engine' is just that, a theory. The TFSi is still a vastly unexplored engine and its true potential will show in the coming years as they become cheaper and more engines appear on the used market. Much the same happened with the 1.8t and other engines.

thought about this old thread of mine and found it to resurrect it. have been considering stepping back to stage 2 myself after all problems i have had with transmission on 2+ lately. As dave says here, the engine may be fine on 2+ but can the transmission handle the torque for long? more likely will get an SPS switch with tamer maps on it as well as the 9/6/6 you mapped it on dave when you fitted Twinter; as dont think am ready to end my 2+ experience yet

[E30Dom]

What transmission woes have you been having? Is it the aggressive B9 doing it with the high T6 giving alot of torque all at once?

I was thinking bout dropping to stage 1 and buying a track day car with proceeds of the APR pump, exhaust, Unibrace and keeping it as a daily, but then I drove it and thought wow this is a fun daily hack, why change it... And because i've uprated the clutch it seems a waste not to use the full potential... and if I ever sell it would have to be as a whole...(offers of £9750+)

Kinda wished I stayed at stage 1 and did the suspension, but then again I wouldn't have uprated the brakes probably, but so glad I did, cos they are awesome, aspire so much more confidence and look ace... and now stage 2+ is certainly showing the suspension needs work... nothing coilovers/ARB's and poly bushes won;t sort  ;)

[rich83]

I dont think i would go stage 2+ even if i had a big pot of money. I would probably use that money to buy a better car to start with, such as a 135i, and stage 1 that. 

[RedRobin]

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The best overall package you can have is one which achieves a good balance between power, traction, and handling, and then remap your brain by driver training. It doesn't matter what you drive, those same elements apply.

[E30Dom]

Yep... I have the power, just need the rest up to the same standard... then it will be a machine :)

[RedRobin]

Yep... I have the power, just need the rest up to the same standard... then it will be a machine :)

Yes, and not just a machine but one which lives and breathes (as stealthwolf says in his forum sig) 

Taut and tactile, like a fine female.

[Janner_Sy]

I dont think i would go stage 2+ even if i had a big pot of money. I would probably use that money to buy a better car to start with, such as a 135i, and stage 1 that. 

If i was to buy a K03 TFSi again, i dont think id take it to stage 2+ again either, i would however look at just adding a K04 turbo with a custom map.  Its a much cheaper way of achieving 280-300hp on this engine than staying with the K03 and adding the intake, exhaust, intercooler, fuel pump etc.

[RedRobin]

If i was to buy a K03 TFSi again, i dont think id take it to stage 2+ again either, i would however look at just adding a K04 turbo with a custom map.  Its a much cheaper way of achieving 280-300hp on this engine than staying with the K03 and adding the intake, exhaust, intercooler, fuel pump etc.

....The total cost of a K03 to K04 conversion with all necessary parts and map will surely be more than adding an intake, TBE exhaust, intercooler, fuel pump (even an APR).

For a start, when converting a K03 to K04 you would need a TBE exhaust, HPFP, and probably intercooler, anyway. I think you made a mistake there, Sy.