MOT tests from 2012 have new additions.

[bacillus]

Just reading this thread and thinking out loudly, I have to ask myself why Steve is so vehmently opposed to the notion that xenon lights don't fall under the HID catagory.
Could it be that from his sig picture, his car doesn't appear to have headlight washers and so won't pass the new MOT??   

[stealthwolf]

That's correct - he had them retrofitted. And will now have to sell his new car to get the system properly retrofitted. Or he'll have to take them off at MOT time.

[alexperkins]

My MOT is up before this comes in so its all good for me 

Though I am going to save up and fit the washers and the levelling kit

[Comms]

My MOT is up before this comes in so its all good for me 

Though I am going to save up and fit the washers and the levelling kit

Have you looked into the current cost of these since the price increase?

[simonp]

I would have to agree that HID also applies to what manufacturers refer as xenon lights

Me, too, what with that fact being correct an' all!

[Saint Steve]

Just reading this thread and thinking out loudly, I have to ask myself why Steve is so vehmently opposed to the notion that xenon lights don't fall under the HID catagory.
Could it be that from his sig picture, his car doesn't appear to have headlight washers and so won't pass the new MOT??  

I have nothing to worry out chap.

I have a good friend who's an MOT tester so it will pass  

My xenons and shutters are great, and shutters work, set on a lower setting.

If you read that last paragraph in the VOSA write up in section 1.7...what does it say about cars with firmer suspension?

Advisory can be given... Haha, so no I don't have to sell my new car stealthy 

[QD MBE]

barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system

^^^^ Golf has barely any luggage space? 

[Saint Steve]

Still not a failure though dave, an advisory is given......

so explain how my car could fail now when it says this^^

Good to see you quote the stiff suspension bit, The GTI will fall into this too, no levelers are not a requirement .

[alexperkins]

My MOT is up before this comes in so its all good for me 

Though I am going to save up and fit the washers and the levelling kit

Have you looked into the current cost of these since the price increase?

What price increase are you referring to?

[QD MBE]

It is at the discretion of the tester.  However, I think the article is fairly self explanatory.  

They use sentences such as -

Vehicles with HID headlamps are therefore required to have a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self levelling, which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems.  

HID is a term used to describe a group of headlights, Xenons (whether OEM or retrofit - still xenons) are in that group.

Not sure where the get out clause is in the above.  But very happy to be proven wrong.  

My whole reason for posting this was not to get anyone's back up, but to give information, there are a lot of enquiries on this site about Retrofitting Xenons, and HID Kits.

[182_blue]

Well dont worry about it then ?, get your dodgy mate to pass it for you, i fear others without a dodgy mate wont be so lucky.

Just reading this thread and thinking out loudly, I have to ask myself why Steve is so vehmently opposed to the notion that xenon lights don't fall under the HID catagory.
Could it be that from his sig picture, his car doesn't appear to have headlight washers and so won't pass the new MOT??  

I have nothing to worry out chap.

I have a good friend who's an MOT tester so it will pass  

My xenons and shutters are great, and shutters work, set on a lower setting.

If you read that last paragraph in the VOSA write up in section 1.7...what does it say about cars with firmer suspension?

Advisory can be given... Haha, so no I don't have to sell my new car stealthy 

[vRStu]

....... which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems.

Interesting point that QD.  The last time I did any research on it, a correctly retrofitted OEM Xenon headlamp unit would retain the manual levelling system operation from the headlamp switch.  That might just cover it???

[Richn83]

....... which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems.

Interesting point that QD.  The last time I did any research on it, a correctly retrofitted OEM Xenon headlamp unit would retain the manual levelling system operation from the headlamp switch.  That might just cover it???

Steve will just have to get air suspension, then the car will self level.......

[QD MBE]

....... which may be achieved either by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems.

Interesting point that QD.  The last time I did any research on it, a correctly retrofitted OEM Xenon headlamp unit would retain the manual levelling system operation from the headlamp switch.  That might just cover it???

on the MK4 you could splice into the levelling system, I don't think it is possible on the MK5.

[alexperkins]

I did read a guide on it for the MK5, but it was very crude