fast road pads

[the bruce]

Think the reason why Ferodo does not claim their DS2500 as ''ECE R90'' compliant
is that they don't want to sell them to the fools looking for high  brake forces but
don't understand that a ''sportier'' compound may cause some noise.
Same with Pagid. They offer their RS range as specialist products for enthusiasts.
So their customers know what to expect and what to pay for.

[_Nathan_]

Dunno if things have changed but I am pretty sure the Ferrodos I got with the last AP kit I bought came in a Ferrodo box with the standard non road legal disclaimer? Made no difference to me as I wouldn't use them anyway, they are awful, nowhere near as much initial bite and retardation as a decent pad like RS29, PF01 or if you don't care about disks and just want ultimate stopping then RS15. DS2500 just smear themselves all over the disks on a heavy fast car.

Tip for you too - when you need replacement disks get Performance Friction ones to fit your existing AP bells, about £50 more per disk but they last 50-100% longer than the AP disks on my track and don't crack in the same way 

[QD MBE]

Dunno if things have changed but I am pretty sure the Ferrodos I got with the last AP kit I bought came in a Ferrodo box with the standard non road legal disclaimer? Made no difference to me as I wouldn't use them anyway, they are awful, nowhere near as much initial bite and retardation as a decent pad like RS29, PF01 or if you don't care about disks and just want ultimate stopping then RS15. DS2500 just smear themselves all over the disks on a heavy fast car.

Tip for you too - when you need replacement disks get Performance Friction ones to fit your existing AP bells, about £50 more per disk but they last 50-100% longer than the AP disks on my track and don't crack in the same way 

Interesting.

[RedRobin]

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AP no longer supply DS2500's with their brake kits. They have had their own compound made and claim improvements in several aspects.

[_Nathan_]

They would, the profit margin is higher 

[the bruce]

Performance Friction, Endless and Pagid are the finest in brake components (like Ferodo),
but the question is ''fast road'' so I guess the only recommendations of these I'd made
would be Ferodo DS2500 or the even better Pagid RS4-2.
Although these are both not road legal (with stock brake) and might cause some squeeking
they work fine on a daily driver.

[RedRobin]

They would, the profit margin is higher 

....Cynical aren't you. The profit margin may indeed be higher, I don't know, but AP still have to R&D and test their pads. AFAIK their pads perform better than the DS2500's in several aspects. I posted info in the thread linked to earlier.