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P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« on: May 25, 2011, 08:34:24 am »
Hi guys, anyone seen this before? Seems to happen when I lift off when coming to a stop, was reset on Monday and came back on this morning but have used car monday night and yesterday so not happening all the time.


1 Fault Found:
008584 - Bank 1; System too Rich at Idle
               P2188 - 008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 0
                    Mileage: 84772 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:42:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 879 /min
                    Load: 34.9 %
                    Speed: 2.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 81.0°C
                    Temperature: 44.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.843 V

Readiness: 0000 0001

Interesting that the fault code was recorded at a higher milage than the car had done  at the time :laugh:



Thinking throttle alignment in VCDS and checking for air leaks, especially around the intercooler followed by more drastic measures.

Maybe MAF or Lambda sensor?

Also guess I should check HPFP - is the easiest thing to do just smell the oil?

Thanks
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 09:32:16 am »
Hi Nathan, rich idle does sound odd but i had a lumpy idle a while back and that was when i changed the spark plugs and PCV and havent had it since. As i said i flagged it to Revo and VWR when the light popped up but i was reassured it was nothing to be concerend about although i can see why you would be. the mileage seems fine though as its in km so.. 84 772 kilometres = 52 674.8787 miles which is about right. Id be interested to see the out come though im sure its nothing to worry about otherwise i will feel a bit deflated with VWR and Revo both of whom i really think have been great to be honest.
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 01:57:52 pm »
Been reading the yank forums?

Ive seen this fault code many times, one was a split in the turbo inlet hose, the other was a faulty maf.

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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 05:05:40 pm »
DV check on the Ed is relatively simple as it's right at the front of the engine.

Still don't understand why you are getting the System too Rich code.  :confused:


17705/P1297/004759 - Pressure Drop between Turbo and Throttle Valve (check D.V.!)

Possible Symptoms
Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
Power Loss
Possible Causes
Leaking Hoses and/or Pipes between Components
Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) faulty
Diverter Valve faulty
Throttle Body dirty
Possible Solutions
Check Hoses and Pipes between Components
Check / Replace Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
Check / Replace Diverter Valve
Check / Clean Throttle Body
Perform Throttle Body Alignment
Special Notes
Did anyone install an extra (wrong) dump valve?
When found in the NAR 2.0T (BPY) check RVUTB: 01-09-03 or 2018919 for updated Crankcase Breather Valve
If the breather valve is faulty, full engine vacuum is typically found when removing the oil cap at idle.

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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 07:05:41 pm »
O rings missing on intercooler hose. Massive thank you to the people who did the work so badly in the first place ;), fair to say that Nick didn't get the work he paid for. Be careful who you trust to do mechanical work on your cars.

Got a few bits to sell now as I've replaced some stuff that didn't need doing :D
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 08:08:04 pm »
Sounds like a result.  :happy2:

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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 08:38:54 pm »
Thanks for your help too matey.  :happy2:
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 08:35:50 am »
O rings missing on intercooler hose. Massive thank you to the people who did the work so badly in the first place ;), fair to say that Nick didn't get the work he paid for. Be careful who you trust to do mechanical work on your cars.

Got a few bits to sell now as I've replaced some stuff that didn't need doing :D

Glad its sorted mate, safe to say i wont be using revo's mechanics again  :fighting:

to think it cost me about 400 quid to put back to standard and they cocked up a few things  :surprised:
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 09:41:03 am »
I wasn't gonna name them matey  :signLOL:

I'm glad it is all fixed now, no reflection on you as you paid money in good faith for the work to be done, I didn't even think of checking this stuff as I assumed it would've been done perfectly by them...
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Re: P2188 - System too Rich at Idle
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 04:45:20 pm »
Did you get the rich at idle fault code back at all nathan? or is your car still running on stock code?