DSG limiting power and torque on a remap

[nc35]

Hi All
Just wondered if anyone had heard of the DSG limiting the output when remapping?

[SteveP]

Yes but the torque limit is normally removed as part of the remap. This was the case on the early versions of the Superchips map for the Edition 30 

[nc35]

Tell me more pls...

[baldwined30]

thats what they told me as well! Not sure im that happy with SC though! thats for another thread though hah

[PDT]

Hi All
Just wondered if anyone had heard of the DSG limiting the output when remapping?

Yes, theres an additional set of limiters that need raising. Had this issue with a car belonging to a member on here recently whilst mapping it. My binary editing software (winols) didnt find the map so took a while to resolve but its a simple fix when you find the correct map address.

[baldwined30]

I sooooo need to take mine to get it mapped properly!

[nc35]

So it's an ECU perameter not a dsg map???

[SteveP]

Correct.

[heavyd]

I had this occur on shark and PDT map, both limited the torque to 280lb/ft. shark managed to get around it in the end, but only up to 330bhp. Once I had the Revo DSG map installed, this went straight up to 350lb/ft.
I also add that the Revo stage 2+ went straight to 350lb/ft, and the bluefin stage 3 went to around 315lb/ft without the Revo dsg map
The way it was explained to me was that the ecu tells the DSG what torque it is producing, so the map intercepts this value and tells the dsg a fake reading etc etc, dont know if its true, but its what I was told at the time

[chris s]

Hey guys, I have an ED30 DSG, does anyone know if theRevo Stage 1 map removes the Torque limter mentioned in this thread?

[nc35]

Is this the same for the mk5.5 (6)

Would like to get mine up to full fat 

[SteveP]

Is this the same for the mk5.5 (6)

Would like to get mine up to full fat 

It will depend on the tuner, again with superchips I believe the torque limit is in place but not with the Revo.

[heavyd]

Here are some examples:

shark performance stage 3 without revo dsg software - torque limiters in map



PDtuning stage 2 without revo dsg software and torque limiters



Superchips stage 3 vs Revo stage 2+ without revo dsg software



Shark stage 3 with tweaked map to take out limiters


Same shark stage 3 remap as above, but with REVo dsg software

[chris s]

Interesting, so without the revo dsg map the torque limiters are still in place when only the ecu has the revo stage one map??

[heavyd]

No. As said previously, tuners can change the engine map so torque limiters aren't in place. As stated, revo, superchips, shark, and pdt now can bypass the limiters with the ecu remap.
The revo dsg map doesn't just change torque limiters, it changes shift times, launch control, rev limits, stops auto shift up and down in manual mode.