Problems with HPI and the car itself. Please Help.

[driver rider]

Hi guys,

went to pick up a car today.  

Originally the cars alloys were totally unmarked and when I arrived the wheels had been kerbed.  This was freshly done as you could see the fresh poweder on the wheel.  He denied this.  We went back and forth on this for about 15 mins before he finally admitted he had clipped both!  He would only take off £50.

Had a look through paperwork.  There were two MOT's.  The latest one had expired on 22nd December! (two days ago) He was visibly shocked and said he'd get one done again only after pressing him on the issue and pointing out it would be illegal and I wouldnt be insured.  I also told him any cost would have to be picked up by him.

The car drove fine.

Back from test drive decided I didnt trust this guy so did a FULL HPI.  Even though a member on here had kindly helped me out something just didn't seem right.  So after entering VIN, mileage etc..A couple of things..the mileage ... came up with "the mileage you have entred is outside the expected range. Please ensure it is correct and click update to confirm.  Note that the mileage will be recorded.  Please suply the vehicle's V5 (registration document) details to be able to qualify for the HPI guarantee".  I take this to mean they're not sure of the mileage?  Also they mean I need to fully complete the rest of the form to qualify for the guarantee?

The main bugbear though is that the "V5 registration document issue date" just didnt match up on the system.  I tried every date on the form.  I then found a link on the website  under the heading "Stolen V5 Document Check" http://www.hpicheck.com/what_check.html

It showed me exactly where to look (not that I didn't know in the first place) and the numbers dates definately didn't tally up.  Called the HPI company theyre closed and not open until tuesday.  Trader agreed to meet on wendesday.  I mean even if things do work out well, I understand the documents may take up to four weeks to arrive?  Is this correct or could it be quicker or longer.  I will also speak to DVLA as well as VOSA. Or am I doing this all wrong?

Im sorry for so much dribble.  I LOVED the drive, first time I'd driven one and I really wanted to take it home but dont feel these things are correct.  I'd really like your views and help on this.  I'm thinking of leaving the car even though I really like it.  I may wait till spring time and get an edition 30.

Merry Christmas.

[Greeners]

It's quite simple, if your not 100% then walk away, plenty of cars out there to choose from! 

[edd666999]

100% Walk away. You will always be left wondering and worrying if you buy it.

Plenty of other cars out there!

[Beddie]

It's quite simple, if your not 100% then walk away, plenty of cars out there to choose from! 

^^ + 1, This is the only option in this instance imo 

[Andy]

If you don't feel happy,then walk away

[driver rider]

Guess I'm walking away....I'll just keep an eye out.....Really gutted but better to find out now than later...Thank you for such a prompt and honest reply.  It really is appreciated.

I really would be worried about the car even if it was a typo, don't think I'd ever be totally at ease with the car.  On a lighter note still can't believe how amazing the car felt to drive....I know realise how bad my polo is!!!

I'll be keeping an eye on the for sale section......

Really can't wait and made me want my car even more....Is an edition 30 worth the premium?
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!

[sub39h]

Eddy is basically a GTI with marginally worse handling (due to something VW did to the spring and damping setings) but a bigger turbo.

Handling can easily be sorted with a set of springs. Having the K04 from the factory is priceless

Worth the premium all day long if a Mk5 is what you're after

[edd666999]

Eddy is basically a GTI with marginally worse handling (due to something VW did to the spring and damping setings) but a bigger turbo.

Handling can easily be sorted with a set of springs. Having the K04 from the factory is priceless

Worth the premium all day long if a Mk5 is what you're after

i thought the ed30 suspension shared the same product code as the gti springs...

[Nodz]

Can only echo above, if not happy walk away..

Also if you've still got all the numbers of the documents handy you can check its MOT history so it would give you an idea what the mileage should be, just as a curiosity factor more than anything
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/Mot/DG_10020539

[driver rider]

I really dont want to walk away as the car was fine nut seems it would be best.  It was just the paperwork and also the dealers lack of organisaton (are they all like this?) that got me.  I still will call the HPI company out of interest.

[lesalanos]

There are several dates on the V5 form, make sure you get the right one , the hpi site shows the position.  It is small from memory and not obvious.

I have seen before where people have entered milages incorrectly.  If it was entered wrongly last time and you are entering a lower milage then it will flag up.

eg they might have entered 100,000 instead of 10,000. 

As stated before you can check all recorded milages, not sure if it does it on the hpi site or the .gov mot site.

If you love the car then don't walk away right away but make sure that everything is right.  There are enough places to check all of the info.

[bacillus]

IMO you can't really trust the seller (why would he deny kerbing the rims and let the mot lapse) so I would walk away...

[QD MBE]

I did a HPI on my Clutter when I bought it.

It flagged up a V5 date issue.

The date HPI had did not match the date on the V5.

I did some more digging, and it seems HPI don't update the database as often as one would like.

I did a check on the following link.....

https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app/enquiry?execution=e1s1

And it all checked out OK.  You need the V5 Document ref number (on right about halfway down the page)

details as below, HPI still think the V5 was last issued way back in 2007.........

Date of Liability   01 04 2012
Date of First Registration   09 10 2003
Year of Manufacture   2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc)   1998cc
CO2 Emissions   194g/Km
Fuel Type   PETROL
Export Marker   N
Vehicle Status   Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour   BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval   M1
Date of Last V5C Issued   20 12 2011
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate   £134.75
12 Months Rate   £245.00

[MAT ED30]

Eddy is basically a GTI with marginally worse handling (due to something VW did to the spring and damping setings) but a bigger turbo.

Handling can easily be sorted with a set of springs. Having the K04 from the factory is priceless

Worth the premium all day long if a Mk5 is what you're after

  don't know much about cars do you   everything other than the engine,seats,bumpers and wheels is the same as a normal Gti

[E30Dom]

Walk away!

Plenty out there for saLe... personally i'd wait for an eddy...