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Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« on: February 07, 2012, 08:43:35 pm »
Hi guys, need 2 new tyres on the Ed30 which is stage 2+
My PS3's are good but they don't handle the power well at all so I'm looking for something thy may do a slightly better Job!

The choices are toyo R1R £161 each or yoko advan AD08 about £140 each

Im after some advice from guys which may have tried them both? Wear rate doesn't matter much but we all like them to last so it would grey if one lasted longer than the other!

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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 09:01:31 pm »
not tried either yet but i am going for R1R's myself for summer as best for grip apparently (apart from the 888's) but I think are a bit better in the wet/cold than the 888's but sure Danish/Danza/Hurdy can confirm
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 09:04:04 pm »
Both great, think I'd chose the Yoko myself. Lotus boys love them. Look at Federal 595 RSRs too  :happy2:
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 09:07:33 pm »
yeah heard those federals are great for the money as track/summer tyres, even better than the Hankook variety
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 09:12:14 pm »
yeah heard those federals are great for the money as track/summer tyres, even better than the Hankook variety
I can vouch for the Federals, i love mine and surprisingly good in the wet tbh!  :happy2:


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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 09:12:51 pm »
Had the R1R on great tyre which lasted a good 6-7k miles and has the same compound as R888's but comes with more tread and better at dispersing water although wouldnt put them on till at least spring time as in these temps the compound will be rock hard and possibility of failure.

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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 09:14:15 pm »
Does anyone know what MM of tread comes on the AD08 and R1R?

Ad08 sounds good so far then  :happy2:

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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 09:21:06 pm »
Where you pricing these at?

Assuming 225/40/18 88W, my concern would be the load rating being 70kg less.  Combined with the extra lateral grip and you could be looking at potentially the sidewall being put under a load close to or even exceeding maximum.  In addition, I would expect insurance to be void in the event of an accident as you have fitted tyres with a load rating lower than specified.

That said I know people have run these for a few thousand miles without issue.

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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 09:26:42 pm »
Where you pricing these at?

Assuming 225/40/18 88W, my concern would be the load rating being 70kg less.  Combined with the extra lateral grip and you could be looking at potentially the sidewall being put under a load close to or even exceeding maximum.  In addition, I would expect insurance to be void in the event of an accident as you have fitted tyres with a load rating lower than specified.

That said I know people have run these for a few thousand miles without issue.

To be honest I'm not sure, just had a quick look on camskill, the rating standard is Y I think but will have to check Load is 88 tho

Edit: http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b1600s134p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_18%5C_inch_YOKOHAMA_TYRES_TRACKDAY_TRACK_DAY_YOKOHAMA_AD08_ADVAN_NEOVA_YOKOHAMA_AD_08_-_R18_inch_-_225_40_18_225_40_R_18
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 09:29:24 pm »
I didn't have both of them but I know some guys running them.
Imho both are great and superior to the Federal, at least the AD08 is better.

Jake/Danish had the R1-R. Shure he'll visit this thread.


The choices are toyo R1R £161 each or yoko advan AD08 about £140 each

If the Yokos are even cheaper I'd go for them!


Both great, think I'd chose the Yoko myself. Lotus boys love them. Look at Federal 595 RSRs too  :happy2:

I know some guys very lucky with the AD08 running on the Ring. Sadly the AD08
isn't available in Germany and has to be purchased in the UK or Poland.

I'm not completely satisfied with the 595 RS-R, Tony. While it feels more stable
and grippy on dry than a R-S2 I had some issues with cracks/crazes on the tread.
It's also very poor on the wet (esp. when cold). So not suitable on a daily driver.


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If you have 8x18 wheel with ET48 - ET51 think about going for 235/30 wide tyrers.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 09:30:57 pm by the bruce »
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 09:29:48 pm »
Does anyone know what MM of tread comes on the AD08 and R1R?

Ad08 sounds good so far then  :happy2:

AD08 comes with 8mm when new as it's marketed primarily as a road tyre, i'd imagine the R1R also comes with the usual 8mm compared to the 5mm of the 888  :happy2:


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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 09:32:50 pm »
The Clutter has T-R1R's on each corner, and it is so so funny, the combination of the Diff and the tyres means it just sticks and sticks, and that is in the winter. 

205/50/15's as well, so fairly cheap fun!


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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 09:32:54 pm »
Does anyone know what MM of tread comes on the AD08 and R1R?

Ad08 sounds good so far then  :happy2:

AD08 comes with 8mm when new as it's marketed primarily as a road tyre, i'd imagine the R1R also comes with the usual 8mm compared to the 5mm of the 888  :happy2:

Thank you  :happy2: was confused about the whole "R888 don't come with lots of tread"
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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 09:32:58 pm »
Where you pricing these at?

Assuming 225/40/18 88W, my concern would be the load rating being 70kg less.  Combined with the extra lateral grip and you could be looking at potentially the sidewall being put under a load close to or even exceeding maximum.  In addition, I would expect insurance to be void in the event of an accident as you have fitted tyres with a load rating lower than specified.

That said I know people have run these for a few thousand miles without issue.

To be honest I'm not sure, just had a quick look on camskill, the rating standard is Y I think but will have to check Load is 88 tho

Looks like 88 is common for track tyres load rating of 560kg.  R888 available in 92,

I think it would niggle at me particularly full pelt mid corner :scared:

Edit: http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b1600s134p0/Car_Tyres_-_MPV_Tyres_-_People_Carrier_Tyres_-_18%5C_inch_YOKOHAMA_TYRES_TRACKDAY_TRACK_DAY_YOKOHAMA_AD08_ADVAN_NEOVA_YOKOHAMA_AD_08_-_R18_inch_-_225_40_18_225_40_R_18

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Re: Toyo R1R vs advan AD08
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 09:38:21 pm »
I had some issues with cracks/crazes on the tread.
It's also very poor on the wet (esp. when cold). So not suitable on a daily driver.


Luckily i've had no treadwear issues with mine so far and found they have exceeded my expectations for wet weather performance on track, don't know if i'd be happy to let the wife use the car through our usual British summer though as i think they may be a handful with standing water etc!


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