Total Excelium 97 or Tesco Momentum or Esso 97?

[Mk5 GTian]

Yep, just filled up with Momentum, so will see how it feels over the next 300 miles or so. 5p off per litre and clubcard points can't be sniffed at, and you can actually buy it! 

[vRStu]

I've been using Excillium Diesel for a few months as I get a discount from work but I don't notice anything much from it.  The discount is being withdrawn at the end of this month so I'll be switching back to Shell.

[Tamiyoman]

Momentum 99 all day, its usually 3-4p per litre cheaper and if you shop at tescos and spend more than £50 you get a 5p off per litre voucher so more savings, I filled up at my local tescos on sunday and it was 144.9 pump price after 5p voucher 139.9  always good to drop in 50 litres when you have a 5p off voucher 

[DanGB]

Not sure how you can list those 97 octane fuels in the same boat as Tesco 99, I think your being a snob personally 

[Mk5 GTian]

Not sure how you can list those 97 octane fuels in the same boat as Tesco 99, I think your being a snob personally 

Do you not remember that news event a few years ago when everyone filling up with supermarket fuel kept breaking down? I still struggle to forget that when I think of filling up. That's why I'd consider proper fuel companies' 97 in the same bracket as Tesco 99 

[Beddie]

Do you not remember that news event a few years ago when everyone filling up with supermarket fuel kept breaking down? I still struggle to forget that when I think of filling up. That's why I'd consider proper fuel companies' 97 in the same bracket as Tesco 99  

That was an isolated incident back in 2007 linked only to the Vopak refinery in Essex though, only really affected the SE and was due to silicon contamination of the storage tanks and whilst it was a major cock-up its unfair to tarnish all supermarket fuel inferior without knowing the facts imo..

I've been in many Tesco stores and still haven't noticed where they are hiding the onsite petrol refinery (even looked behind the bakery once) so lets consider where they and the other retailers actually get the fuel from  

Tesco for example part own 'Greenenergy' and thus use them for distribution of fuel throughout their network but as there are only 7 Greenergy managed terminals in the UK they also use 3rd party terminals for the supply of fuel depending on location, for example my local terminal is 'Stanlow' in cheshire which happens to be the sole producer of Vpower for the entire UK and if you were to spend some time truck spotting outside the main gate you'll notice Tesco, BP, Texaco tankers happily going in and out...
Therefore depending where you live in the UK and if buying Tesco 99 you will either get exactly the same base fuel from the same tanks as Shell / BP etc but with Tesco's additive package added at source, in other locations it will come straight from Greenenergy to Tesco specification

http://www.greenergy.com/Our_business/fuel_terminals.html

It's fair to add that Vpower's formulation is not shared by shell and is transported from Stanlow via the pipeline network to Essex to aid distribution so you could argue that will guarantee some consistency of quality but i'd still argue that Tesco 99 is right up there in comparison  

More important imo is ensuring you fill up from 'busy' filling stations as high octane fuels 'go off' quicker than regular blends so try and use stations that have frequent deliveries to avoid old fuel  

[Sunglasses Ron]

I was told that all national V Power deliveries have been suspended for 3 weeks.. 

[mark53]

I filled up today with v power in ST.ALBANS 

[RedRobin]

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I have always used Shell (my late godfather was senior management in the Mediterranean) and therefore my car is tuned for V-Power. But in the current shortage of supplies I need to broaden my options and Tesco 99 (Momentum?) has been advised.

Do all Tesco fuel stations have Momentum pumps?

I was told that all national V Power deliveries have been suspended for 3 weeks..  

....On Wednesday my local (20 miles away) Shell told me 2 weeks. They said that it was less of a priority  

Shell could lose massive sales from this. What if we all start to prefer Tesco Momentum 99?

[Mk5 GTian]

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I have always used Shell (my late godfather was senior management in the Mediterranean) and therefore my car is tuned for V-Power. But in the current shortage of supplies I need to broaden my options and Tesco 99 (Momentum?) has been advised.

Do all Tesco fuel stations have Momentum pumps?

I was told that all national V Power deliveries have been suspended for 3 weeks..  

....On Wednesday my local (20 miles away) Shell told me 2 weeks. They said that it was less of a priority  

Shell could lose massive sales from this. What if we all start to prefer Tesco Momentum 99?

I had my car remapped on Monday, and I have to admit, after half a tank of momentum, it is now runnning better than it was on Monday. Unfortunately though, I could  only get Total Excelium in my tank for the remap, so I can't compare it with Vpower yet. But it's running really well at the moment, so I might just take the saving and the Clubcard points in future.

[vRStu]

Tesco for example part own 'Greenenergy' and thus use them for distribution of fuel throughout their network but as there are only 7 Greenergy managed terminals in the UK they also use 3rd party terminals for the supply of fuel depending on location, for example my local terminal is 'Stanlow' in cheshire which happens to be the sole producer of Vpower for the entire UK and if you were to spend some time truck spotting outside the main gate you'll notice Tesco, BP, Texaco tankers happily going in and out...
Therefore depending where you live in the UK and if buying Tesco 99 you will either get exactly the same base fuel from the same tanks as Shell / BP etc but with Tesco's additive package added at source, in other locations it will come straight from Greenenergy to Tesco specification

http://www.greenergy.com/Our_business/fuel_terminals.html

It's fair to add that Vpower's formulation is not shared by shell and is transported from Stanlow via the pipeline network to Essex to aid distribution so you could argue that will guarantee some consistency of quality but i'd still argue that Tesco 99 is right up there in comparison 

More important imo is ensuring you fill up from 'busy' filling stations as high octane fuels 'go off' quicker than regular blends so try and use stations that have frequent deliveries to avoid old fuel 

I would concur, similar happens with our oil.  We have agreements with blending plants around the world and they blend using locally obtained base oil and TOTAL Lubrifiants additive package.  Equally we also have partner agreements with companies such as REPSOL and IP Ranga etc worldwide whom buy our additive package and market the oil under their own brands.

So far as I am aware there are three major additive producers worldwide, Infineum, Lubrizol and Oranite.  So pretty much everything comes from them in the formulations decided by the petroleum or oil companies.

A large proportion of TOTAL filling stations are now owned by Shell, 254 to be precise and the remainder (556) are owned by RONTEC which is a venture capital arrangement with Gerald Ronson at the helm.  Pretty much all are still branded TOTAL but none are now owned by TOTAL - FINA - Elf, there is an agreement to trade with the brand for about 2 years.

[stealthwolf]

So will all TOTAL garages be rebranded as Shell and hence have V-power available? There's a TOTAL garage around the corner from me and I've only ever used it once when I had my crappy fiesta. At the mo, I have to have a return trip of about 6 miles to my nearest shell so this would be a godsend.

[vRStu]

No only the 254 that were bought by Shell will be branded Shell.

Easiest way is to ask at the till if they are Shell or RONTEC - They will know.

[RedRobin]

At the mo, I have to have a return trip of about 6 miles to my nearest shell so this would be a godsend.

....Only 6 miles!? My nearest return trip is 30 miles! Which is why I always fill up on my way home.

[Tfsi_Mike]

£1.59 is out rageous