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Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« on: June 08, 2012, 09:58:13 pm »
My 5 door Edition 30 has small rust spots on exactly the same place on both rear door shuts.  They are definitely caused by the hard rubber trim attached to the rear door repeatedly scraping across the painted shut area and the sharp end causing micro abrasion to a specific area as the car is being driven which has caused the paint surface to be broken and lead to the rust spots. 
Anyone else had this problem?
Will VW listen??

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 10:34:15 pm »
Mine is doing the exact same thing. Mine shows quite badly aswell being a dark colour. I have thought of ways round it but haven't come to a conclusion.

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 11:36:18 pm »
The immediate solution is to slightly trim the seal I think but the rust is my main worry.
I'm going to book it in to my local dealer first and see what they say.
I suggest you do the same.
Good luck.

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 07:45:10 am »
Mines similar to, interested to see what Vw say

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 01:56:14 pm »
Just washed my 5 door this morning, and had a look at inside the rear doors, and they are both like yours.  :fighting: tell us how you get on at vw

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 02:18:50 pm »
Not ANOTHER place they rust!  :surprised:
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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 03:14:09 pm »
i've got the exact same thing on mine...

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 08:16:15 pm »
"O-Oh!" - I hear a can of worms being prised open!

I can't say I'm glad others have this problem but it's kind of reassuring I'm not the only 'Rear Doorshut Rust-Spot' sufferer.

I can't get to a dealer until late next week so please post any news here.

Good luck fellow 'RDRS' owners!

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 09:26:23 pm »
I have the same problem, very common, actually a rule on a 5 door mk 5  :fighting:

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 09:37:39 pm »
my mk 5 gti had this problem, i took it to vw got told it was the paintwork warranty that would have covered it, not the corrosion warranty so i got it repaired myself. A year and a half later i met the new owner of the car and was telling him what i had done to the car and the rust is back already, I think best bet would be repair the damage and get a bit of clear vinyl put over the area

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 09:05:22 pm »
my mk 5 gti had this problem, i took it to vw got told it was the paintwork warranty that would have covered it, not the corrosion warranty so i got it repaired myself. A year and a half later i met the new owner of the car and was telling him what i had done to the car and the rust is back already, I think best bet would be repair the damage and get a bit of clear vinyl put over the area

I've just had a look on ELSAWIN and this problem is documented on there, the official fix is as follows:

Customer statement / workshop findings

Scratches (see illustration 1, red arrows) in the inner side panel on the C pillar - only vehicles with 4 doors.


Illustration 1


Technical background

Dirt particles in the sealing lip of the window guide rub on the paint of the C pillar when opening and closing the door.


This complaint may recur after the chassis break(10.2004) - caused by very unfavourable or incorrect adjustment of the door.


Production change


Better contact of the window guide to the side panel.


From Chassis No.:
 1K5W127000
 

 1K5B068000
 

 1K5P042000
 

 1K5D009000
 


Measure

• Perform the following procedure on the left and right side:
 
• Remove scratches:
 
• Polish or paint, depending on the degree of the damage.
 
• If painting is necessary, only spot-paint the affected area.
 
Protect the areas by sticking PU foil part number: 1K4 809 387 on the contact area of the window guides. Part number 1K4 809 387 includes the foil for the left and right side.
 

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 10:41:23 pm »
Great stuff MPS. Question though, is this classed as a recall or something the customer has to pay for?

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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2012, 11:14:31 pm »
Mine had this, but only on one side for some reason.  The door alignment was all to cock on that car, I just assumed it had been badly adjusted and thats what was causing the problem.
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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2012, 11:41:08 pm »
Thanks for finding this.
I wonder if the foils are still available and if VW will recognise this as a legitimate warranty repair?
Time will tell.....



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Re: Rust on 5 door door shuts - hard rubber trim to blame.
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2012, 10:29:22 pm »
UPDATE...

Took my car into local VW dealer this afternoon, the bodywork assessor person wasn't there but a rather sullen young service guy took a few crude pics with the company digital camera and said he'd pass them to the correct person.

More to follow (hopefully!)