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Cloned plates
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:55:23 am »
Need some advise guys.

Bit of background, today I get a phone call from my sister to say there are 9 men on our drive way banging on the door and windows and what have you done, was pretty confused and said I have no idea.

Driving home I have just been stopped by police and questioned on releation to a armed robbery that my car was involved in last night, around a hundred questions later a second un marked unit shows up and questions me further.
Next thing I'm being told to put my hands out and he is spraying a water type liquid on to my hands.

Next thing I'm being questioned to why I have gun shot residue on my hands, I was on the way home from the club were I shoot comp target rifle and have my rifles with me, this did not go down well with the officer

So anyways long story short after a hour and a half at the road side in handcuffs they inform me my number plates have been used in a armed robbery on a jewellery corriour and the met police will be in contact with me very soon to question me about my whereabouts last Night.

He also informed me the 9 men were from the met special task force.

I have multiply witnesses to my location and filled my car at the fuel station near my house at the aprox time of the Robery, but I am still concerned as to potential problems I may face.

Anybody have any advice, rely shaken up by this and not sure were I stand

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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2012, 01:15:11 am »
 :surprised: not good buddy, im sure your be fine, happens alot today, you've got your witnesses, cctv of fueling your car etc, just some scum pissing your life about, your be just fine  :drinking:

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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2012, 01:22:05 am »
my mate had this, the police stops never end, always checking what your doing.

He had to carry around documentation to say hes innocent  :signLOL:

He got a personal plate in the end and it stopped  :stupid:

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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2012, 06:34:23 am »
This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect wheather you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work
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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2012, 08:31:17 am »

This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect wheather you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work


.... :confused: How can that be if it is proven that the guy was completely innocent?

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If innocent, then just put it down to an unlucky experience - You should have nothing to worry about.

I was heavily questioned by Police as a possible suspect in a nasty murder case (Bunny Girl Eve Stratford - My phone number was in her little black book). I was also questioned over the death of my own 4yo son who died in my arms - I have to say that the Police in my son's case were extremely sympathetic and it was merely a process that had to be done.


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2012, 08:44:59 am »
This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect whether you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work

How does this affect credit rating or potential employment?
As the OP is innoncent with multiple witnesses who can vouch for his whereabouts at the time of the crime, the OP shouldn't have anything to worry about (once the witnesses have contacted and the OP's story verified).

I dont agree with claiming compensation (for what exactly?) taking time off work? why?
As harrowing the experience may have been for the OP, ive not seen him complain about be mistreated, beat up or whatever by the police. They are just doing their job.
The police are dealing with an armed robbery so realisticy, they are looking for criminals who used weapons to commit a serious crime.  You really expect them to approach suspects with kid gloves?

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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2012, 08:53:31 am »
Need some advise guys.

Bit of background, today I get a phone call from my sister to say there are 9 men on our drive way banging on the door and windows and what have you done, was pretty confused and said I have no idea.

Driving home I have just been stopped by police and questioned on releation to a armed robbery that my car was involved in last night, around a hundred questions later a second un marked unit shows up and questions me further.
Next thing I'm being told to put my hands out and he is spraying a water type liquid on to my hands.

Next thing I'm being questioned to why I have gun shot residue on my hands, I was on the way home from the club were I shoot comp target rifle and have my rifles with me, this did not go down well with the officer

So anyways long story short after a hour and a half at the road side in handcuffs they inform me my number plates have been used in a armed robbery on a jewellery corriour and the met police will be in contact with me very soon to question me about my whereabouts last Night.

He also informed me the 9 men were from the met special task force.

I have multiply witnesses to my location and filled my car at the fuel station near my house at the aprox time of the Robery, but I am still concerned as to potential problems I may face.

Anybody have any advice, rely shaken up by this and not sure were I stand

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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2012, 09:11:04 am »
This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect whether you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work

How does this affect credit rating or potential employment?
As the OP is innoncent with multiple witnesses who can vouch for his whereabouts at the time of the crime, the OP shouldn't have anything to worry about (once the witnesses have contacted and the OP's story verified).

I dont agree with claiming compensation (for what exactly?) taking time off work? why?
As harrowing the experience may have been for the OP, ive not seen him complain about be mistreated, beat up or whatever by the police. They are just doing their job.
The police are dealing with an armed robbery so realisticy, they are looking for criminals who used weapons to commit a serious crime.  You really expect them to approach suspects with kid gloves?


.... :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:  I totally agree  :happy2:


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 09:13:11 am »

Change your car or get a private plate mate, either way the hassle stops!


....How does having a private plate (like mine) help? [I'm not challenging your words but I'm ignorant of how that works... Or being really thick!]


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2012, 09:55:33 am »

Change your car or get a private plate mate, either way the hassle stops!


....How does having a private plate (like mine) help? [I'm not challenging your words but I'm ignorant of how that works... Or being really thick!]

There will remain an intelligence report marker on the OP's reg number for quite some time, changing to a private reg or even a different age related plate means the police won't stop him all the time as they won't know it's the 'suspect' car...

I did exactly this to great effect after buying an RS turbo that went on to have the plates cloned  :happy2:


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2012, 09:57:00 am »
This can have detrimental effect for your future. It may effect whether you can get credit it or not, possibly a job. Similar thing happened to friends brother when i was at school. He lost his job. He was a police officer. Theyre quite good at putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 potatoe. Take the fight to them and claim compensation. Take at least a week of work

How does this affect credit rating or potential employment?
As the OP is innoncent with multiple witnesses who can vouch for his whereabouts at the time of the crime, the OP shouldn't have anything to worry about (once the witnesses have contacted and the OP's story verified).

I dont agree with claiming compensation (for what exactly?) taking time off work? why?
As harrowing the experience may have been for the OP, ive not seen him complain about be mistreated, beat up or whatever by the police. They are just doing their job.
The police are dealing with an armed robbery so realisticy, they are looking for criminals who used weapons to commit a serious crime.  You really expect them to approach suspects with kid gloves?

OK, maybe compensation is not the right avenue to go. Always gets my goat up when I read incidents like this. My brother was harassed, verging on gang stalking, for 18 months by the local police many years ago just because of his choice in modified cars. Turning up at home and where he worked asking questions of his whereabouts in connection to local crimes and street racing, when clearly he was not connected to any criminal activity. To say I have a distrust of the police is an understatement. I was nearly arrested last Friday by The City Of London police because I refused to give my details when they were called on suspicion of a burgalar on premisies after my work colleague was let in by another colleague. The remote CCTV operator called the police. 20 officers, two tazer armed, and two police dogs. The police dogs were let loose in the building, thankfully I was in the office with the door shut, and alerted the handler to where I was by rabidly barking, after which the handler said if I had the door open "I MAY have been bitten". I think "I MAY have been mauled to death" I was escorted down to identify my colleague, who had heard the comotion and gone downstairs earlier. We were then surrounded by said 20 coppers, tazer in hand readied, and interrogated. After we proved we were meant to be there, they were then insistent on taking all of our details anyway, or we would be arrested....[[[[and noooo Im not going to claim coompensation.]]

What the OP needs to do is throughly check he is not on any database, with regards to criminal background checks that may be made in the future. He would have been detained and had his details taken. Alot of companies ask for criminal background for job applications; the financial services lending world is leaning this way and could affect whether the OP can get a passport if he ends up on a criminal database of any sort. Sorry, I didnt mean to chuck the frighteners out there but unfortunately these things happen.

I hope the OP gets this sorted as soon as possible and he can move on  :drinking:
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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2012, 12:00:33 pm »

Change your car or get a private plate mate, either way the hassle stops!


....How does having a private plate (like mine) help? [I'm not challenging your words but I'm ignorant of how that works... Or being really thick!]


There will remain an intelligence report marker on the OP's reg number for quite some time, changing to a private reg or even a different age related plate means the police won't stop him all the time as they won't know it's the 'suspect' car...

I did exactly this to great effect after buying an RS turbo that went on to have the plates cloned  :happy2:


....Ah, thanks for explaining that  :happy2:

So, what should have been clarified is to get a private plate AFTER the cloning crime event.


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2012, 12:08:19 pm »

OK, maybe compensation is not the right avenue to go. Always gets my goat up when I read incidents like this. My brother was harassed, verging on gang stalking, for 18 months by the local police many years ago just because of his choice in modified cars. Turning up at home and where he worked asking questions of his whereabouts in connection to local crimes and street racing, when clearly he was not connected to any criminal activity.


....Obviously not clearly enough. It would seem he chose to run the sort of car which usually quite rightly attracts Police attention - If you can't stand the heat, don't go in the kitchen.


To say I have a distrust of the police is an understatement. I was nearly arrested last Friday by The City Of London police because I refused to give my details when they were called on suspicion of a burgalar on premisies after my work colleague was let in by another colleague. The remote CCTV operator called the police. 20 officers, two tazer armed, and two police dogs. The police dogs were let loose in the building, thankfully I was in the office with the door shut, and alerted the handler to where I was by rabidly barking, after which the handler said if I had the door open "I MAY have been bitten". I think "I MAY have been mauled to death" I was escorted down to identify my colleague, who had heard the comotion and gone downstairs earlier. We were then surrounded by said 20 coppers, tazer in hand readied, and interrogated. After we proved we were meant to be there, they were then insistent on taking all of our details anyway, or we would be arrested....[[[[and noooo Im not going to claim coompensation.]]


....Why on earth did you refuse to give your details when the Police were trying to do their job?  :stupid:  Sorry, but I have no sympathy for your attitude in this matter. If you give Police 'attitude' you will invariably get what you deserve.


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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2012, 12:14:26 pm »
OP - that's damned unlucky :sad1:

hope you get it all sorted :happy2:

To say I have a distrust of the police is an understatement. I was nearly arrested last Friday by The City Of London police because I refused to give my details when they were called on suspicion of a burgalar on premisies after my work colleague was let in by another colleague. The remote CCTV operator called the police. 20 officers, two tazer armed, and two police dogs. The police dogs were let loose in the building, thankfully I was in the office with the door shut, and alerted the handler to where I was by rabidly barking, after which the handler said if I had the door open "I MAY have been bitten". I think "I MAY have been mauled to death" I was escorted down to identify my colleague, who had heard the comotion and gone downstairs earlier. We were then surrounded by said 20 coppers, tazer in hand readied, and interrogated. After we proved we were meant to be there, they were then insistent on taking all of our details anyway, or we would be arrested....[[[[and noooo Im not going to claim coompensation.]]


....Why on earth did you refuse to give your details when the Police were trying to do their job?  :stupid:  Sorry, but I have no sympathy for your attitude in this matter. If you give Police 'attitude' you will invariably get what you deserve.

i'm with Horatio on this one - if he's done nothing wrong he is not obliged to give the Police his details. would you give your details to a random person just because they asked for them? in essence it's no different.

the Police are not a law unto themselves. some officers seem to think they are. if they've clearly ascertained that he was meant to be on the premises then they have no right to ask for his details. doing something as stupid as letting a police dog loose in a place of work where innocent people are working is wholly unacceptable as well 
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Re: Cloned plates
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2012, 12:31:49 pm »

To say I have a distrust of the police is an understatement.


....Why on earth did you refuse to give your details when the Police were trying to do their job?  :stupid:  Sorry, but I have no sympathy for your attitude in this matter. If you give Police 'attitude' you will invariably get what you deserve.


i'm with Horatio on this one - if he's done nothing wrong he is not obliged to give the Police his details. would you give your details to a random person just because they asked for them? in essence it's no different.
 

....It wasn't a random person, it was (as we are told) a Policeman and a Policeman is an officer and representative of the law. So, I would always willingly give my details to a Policeman and especially if I was innocent of what was being investigated. If I wasn't innocent I would give my details and then insist on legal representation to take it any further.

Horatio has already stated that he has a bad attitude and prejudice towards the Police, and even if he has had bad experiences he shows a lack of broadmindedness to then tar them all with the same brush. You may as well say that just because you have been badly cut up by a GTI driver, that all GTI drivers are like that. However, in the case of poorly driven chavvily modified cars the prejudice is at least initially justified. You don't have to be a Policeman to recognise someone's driving behaviour.


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