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So I bought these because:

1-They came second in the EVO Mag test.
2-A few people on here rated them.
3-A reasonable price from Camskill.
4-I needed new tyres!

So I changed from Falken FK452 which a lot of people don't like but I never had an issue, maybe I don't drive fast enough :driver:

My issues are they seem very 'flighty'?! For example if I put my foot down to overtake from say 40mph I get a lot of torque steer that I never used to get with the Falken.
Also if accelerating hard from a junction it can get quite scary again with the flighty feeling.
This has also happened on the Motorway at say 50/60mph accelerating to 70mph hard.

There is a lot more grip when driving enthusiastically with a little more progression and less aggression but sometimes, especially when overtaking aggression is necessary and this is where they fall down.

What does everybody else think who own them? RR you have them don't you and I know you rate them but have you experienced any of the above?

Is anybody running the Hankook or Conti that also did well in the EVO test?

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 06:54:29 am »
I upgraded from Dunlop Sportmaxx and these are in another league  :notworthy:

They have fantastic grip on the straights as well as the twistys, wet is nearly as good as dry now  :grin:

I'd suggest getting your alignment done if your having problems like that, I don't get any torque steer at all (Stg1 GTI) and it handles the power brilliantly

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 07:14:10 am »
If you've come from FK452s then I'd say the 'flightly' feeling you are now experiencing is a phenomena known as 'grip'...  :wink:
I'd have a guess that you are now feeling the effects of the new tyres searching for and finding traction in situations whereas the falkens didn't before? My track tyres do the same in comparison to my daily PS3s and it almost gives the sensation you get when driving a car with an LSD as the steering tugs and pulls about a little more when you get on the power,

Either that or you might have 50psi in your tyres..?  :grin:


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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 07:16:47 am »
Can't fault the Conti Sport 3 on my ED30.
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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 07:30:37 am »
How did the conti sport contact5's do, cs theyve been superb so far...

How many miles have you done on the assys?
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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 08:44:36 am »
Went from Dunlop Sport Maxx, which were on the car when I bought it,  to the F1's and (so far) am very happy with them, seem to have much more grip and wear (if any) is even as well.  :happy2:
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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 08:47:03 am »
GY F1v2..... Brilliant tyre. Loads and loads of grip.

How long have your tyres been on? How many miles?

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 01:52:03 pm »
I have the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 tires for about 4 months now. The tires I had before were the GoodYear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 1 so I can only compare these models.
1. Comfort: The mk2, much more comfortable than mk1. Anyone how has tested these tires (I have 4 such friends) say that mk2 is much more comfortable than their previous tires (mk1 or Michelin Pilot or Falken)
2. Steering response and side wall. The sidewall is not as stiff on mk2 as it is on mk1. This means that the steering response is worse on mk2 over mk1. The overall handling of the car is worse on mk2 than on mk1 (both my opinion and a friends opinion).
3. Behavior in the wet. Goodyear say that mk2 is better than mk1 but I did not have the chance to test this. I tested mk1 in the wet and it was incredible. So I expect mk2 to be at least the same
4. I even had the chance to test the mk2 in the snow (it snowed in April in Romania and I had the summer tires on). I have to say I was very, very surprised of the mk2 behavior on snow. I had lots of traction and I managed to get past a few hills with 5-10cm of snow (virgin snow) with a 10-15% incline. I know that snow traction is not important on a summer tire but I had to tell you this aspect :).

So:
- I think the mk2 GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric is a very good all rounder
- the mk1 GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric seems to be better for fast road then the mk2 (a friend who has both agrees with this).

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 04:11:46 pm »
I currently have the Goodyears up front with some Conti 3's on the rear. They were moved to the rear as I didn't like the feel/feedback that they DIDN'T give.

The Goodyears do have soft(er) sidewalls, but I wouldn't say thats a bad thing as I found the mk1's a bit crashy. In the wet they provide plenty of feedback and grip, also letting you know when pushing a little too hard.

If I could find them I'd go back to Bridgestone S-02's, much better for my driving style yours might be different.

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 04:46:40 pm »
GY F1v2..... Brilliant tyre. Loads and loads of grip.

This  :happy2:

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 05:00:29 pm »
S001 's are amazing.....why else would they put them as standard on a Ferrari 458

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 05:03:00 pm »
I agree the sidewall is slightly softer, but what you lose in that turn-in feel, you gain in communication feedback. I know exactly what's happening under me at all times.

Mine has done many track days, so I'm not just talking as a road user. I'd rate them as a very, very close runner up to PS2s and certainly better than the MKI. Seems everyone in the motoring press agrees they're pretty damn good too.
Sideways yo!

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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 05:22:39 pm »

My issues are they seem very 'flighty'?! For example if I put my foot down to overtake from say 40mph I get a lot of torque steer that I never used to get with the Falken.
Also if accelerating hard from a junction it can get quite scary again with the flighty feeling.
This has also happened on the Motorway at say 50/60mph accelerating to 70mph hard.

There is a lot more grip when driving enthusiastically with a little more progression and less aggression but sometimes, especially when overtaking aggression is necessary and this is where they fall down.

What does everybody else think who own them? RR you have them don't you and I know you rate them but have you experienced any of the above?


....I found the F1 Asymm 1's excellent in all conditions (snow excluded). I currently only have Asymm 2's on the rear axle until the Dunlop Sport Maxx's on the front wear out, then I'll buy a new pair of F1 Asymm 2's and have them all round.

I have experienced that 'flighty' ride but I think the ESP etc was just seeking grip and probably helped, as already said, by the Quaife diff. Since fitting the UNIbrace UB chassis stiffener I haven't experienced anything 'flighty' so far but we'll see.

As also with extremely hard braking, any squirmy, snakey, flighty feedback is off-putting at first but it's all part of what happens when you drive hard. I always do my utmost to accelerate smoothly so I can eliminate wheelspin or loss of grip if possible. If you are focussed on far enough ahead you can more accurately anticipate and shouldn't need to suddenly or abruptly boot it hard.


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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 06:00:21 pm »
You're probably ahead of me, but just in case -

there's lubricant on the tyres for around the first 50 miles (to help separate them from their moulds during production).
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Re: Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's-Not feeling the love at the moment!
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 06:06:46 pm »
Agreed. Pressures possibly all to cock and probably need scrubbing in.
Sideways yo!