DSG or Manual ????

[Saintsteve]

Just realised I missed a bit out. I meant to say I can accelerate from a standstill in 2nd gear and go from 2nd to 6th...
 

So the other half of my question is can you pull away in 2nd gear?

No... You know that ;-)

Why would you want to anyway... Extra clutch wear... Probably not advisable

At least the Dsg clutch will last longer then the manual if you do pull away in 2nd all the time.

Tis abit pointless this thread. There is a wonderful search engine on this forum with sixty gillion threads on the same subject

[Tortaruga]

Excuse my ignorance but, lovely as she is, who is Mishal Husain?

BBC Newsreader. She's not on much unfortunately, seems to be a kind of summer temp.
When she reads the news I never listen to a word she says, I just sit in a daze.

[mance23]

Stupid thread leads to stupid arguments... ;-)

....The DSG vs Manual subject always goes that way 

And the original poster only wanted some advice about a DSG car he was thinking of buying!

Looks like I have opened a can of worms on this subject,    I think the best thing to do is test it and see if I like it.

Cheers Guys

[Statller-Stevo]

I repair more VW manual boxes than ever DSG's
The DSG has very robust internals indeed we've fitted LSD's in many now and do have a good dig around whilst in there  agreed some early cars can suffer from mechatronic issues (many have been properly sorted now)
At one time we ran two Ed30 in house demo cars running the same mods both circa 400+ hp (one DSG one manual)
I would sware blind the manual was quicker than the DSG as it always felt more aggressive but run them side by side (which we did quite a lot) and the DSG car would pull out lengths easy every time on the manual
If you have a DSG transmission get it mapped with good software end of !!! You will love it (especially the cannon firing noise WOT shifting on the limiter !!  )
Manual VW / Audi boxes are beautifully fluid and very capable so plz don't think I'm against them cos I'm not, I like them both
IMHO DSG is the future more and more are being developed by all the major car manufacturers full stop 

[RedRobin]

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Thanks for sharing your experience, Stevo - That info is very reassuring. 

[Luka]

It really is each to their own. I owned a DSG. It broke, I had to pay to get it fixed. I now own a manual which has been fine. I'm aware I'll have to replace the clutch, that comes part and parcel. I just believe that one of the reasons you would choose DSG is because you don't want the expense of clutch changes, etc. so when it does unfortunately break and you do have to pay for it, it leaves a sour taste. As said, this can be with any part of the car, on any vehicle/make. Some people have been lucky and driven these for thousands of miles without failure. Other have had them go on three month old cars.

[Billy]

I've had my Edition 30 DSG since February and I love it

I drive it in Manual mode with the (extended) paddles 99% of the time and use 'D' mode when in heavy traffic - have only used the 'S' mode a couple of times at roundabouts but generally Manual mode is fine at roundabouts too.

As others have said, give both a go and see how you go. Do try to get an extended test drive in a DSG though so that you can get a good feel for the different ways to use the box.

[laserblue999]

Second that and much of what RedRobin says. DSG is not necessary better or worse - just different. If you're not accustomed to DSG it does take some time to get used to it - IMO much more than a test drive even if extended. In fact it took me a few months truth be told - maybe I'm a slow learner............!

Extended paddles recently fitted (courtesy of e-bay) - a simple mod that really changes the feel for the better as I now hold the steering wheel properly (from my driving tuition anyway). I now use the paddles 99% of the time after progressing from Auto mode to the semi auto in gearstick mode, as I weened myself off 16 years of conventional manual driving.

The mechatronics worry is always there, but all manner of things 'could' go wrong on a car of this calibre which are just as expensive - it is premium car afterall.

[mesaosi]

My advise would be to the use the Forum search option.... For the answer you seek.

Where is this magic search feature oh wise one?

[Beddie]

My advise would be to the use the Forum search option.... For the answer you seek.

Where is this magic search feature oh wise one?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=search

[heavyd]

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I repair more VW manual boxes than ever DSG's
The DSG has very robust internals indeed we've fitted LSD's in many now and do have a good dig around whilst in there  agreed some early cars can suffer from mechatronic issues (many have been properly sorted now)
At one time we ran two Ed30 in house demo cars running the same mods both circa 400+ hp (one DSG one manual)
I would sware blind the manual was quicker than the DSG as it always felt more aggressive but run them side by side (which we did quite a lot) and the DSG car would pull out lengths easy every time on the manual
If you have a DSG transmission get it mapped with good software end of !!! You will love it (especially the cannon firing noise WOT shifting on the limiter !!  )
Manual VW / Audi boxes are beautifully fluid and very capable so plz don't think I'm against them cos I'm not, I like them both
IMHO DSG is the future more and more are being developed by all the major car manufacturers full stop 

I think the DSG box in my car is the only thing that hasn't gone wrong on it. Please don't touch it Steve   ( the white ed30 with no power )

[driver rider]

Ive had my DSG box for three months.  I really can't fault it.

The versatility amazes me.  Launch control I love.  The farts and pops just make me  .  I'm yet to remap my car I understand this will make it even better! The manual mode on a good drive is amazing. I don't get to use it as much as I would like due to london traffic  .  On open roads I enjoy the manual mode of DSG more than a full manual car.  This is my opinion but I feel I can attack a road so much better and you can engine brake I do it all the time!  I can see why some people aren't fans.  Given the choice I'd go for manual every time.  Take the car for a long test drive.  The gear changes should be seamless.  There shouldn't be any jolting at all.  Use all the modes on the test drive and go up and down the gearbox.  Full history is a must!  

I personally feel DSG makes the GTI a better car and gives you more options than a manual.  

ETA Also if you have a lady next to you one hand can be kept free! 

[Mk5 GTian]

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Well, DSG will always have those who dislike it and who much prefer Manual. After 100k miles in my DSG GTI I would not buy any car which didn't have DSG or its equivalent system.

I don't think that anyone can say that DSG is better than conventional Manual, nor vica versa, but only that we each have our own preferences. The only way to decide or against is to drive a DSG car.

I quite agree Robin. I  really love the feeling of depressing the clutch and moving the gear stick, so it's always going to be manual  for me. Like you say, it's all about personal preference, one can only be better than the other for the individual driver concerned.  

[mesaosi]

^^^doesnt work like that. It's a sequential box, you cannot skip gears

You, can't, but the car can. I was driving it in manual this morning in 6th gear, floored the accelerator to activate the kick-down and it shifted straight to 2nd. Accelerated for 2 seconds, lifted off, and it dropped back into 6th gear without a hitch. Bloody beautiful. The DSG is worth it for the *bwarp* noise the car makes in upshifts alone, it's the stuff of dreams.

[RedRobin]

@ mesaosi:

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