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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2010, 08:20:18 pm »
TC, not put off them, just paying the price for an item i can pay for and getting fitted by a friend.
Matt told me the costs inc vat & fitting..

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #106 on: December 01, 2010, 08:24:09 pm »
^^^^
Fair enough, TC, but I don't think that either Mat or myself are "blind mice" but rather that we've had nothing but good experiences of VWR, hence why we share our experiences too.

Glad to see you've calmed down from your unnecessary 'shouting' in your Reply #94, even if you do feel strongly about it.  :happy2:
Tc you know I do most of my own stuff on cars and I would take my car to others but the 2 times I have it's come back fooked and with cross threaded bolts  :fighting: and just poor workmanship. I would and do trust awesome Gti with my car as they have done a few bits on it so blind no just know who I want working on my car and trust with it so it's that simple and as for the price of these mounts if you don't like the price don't buy them simple buy something else

2 discussions on this thread, VWR component prices and VWR service.  I will only comment on the latter.


Time for me to share my experiences, to balance the thread.  Please bear in mind that I am a 28 years  experienced Aerospace engineer, and toolmaker, so know  a fair bit about engineering standards and practices, and the pitfalls along the way.

This is not a VWR slating post, just open and honest experiences.

VWR have cocked up a fair few times (as have other garages).  On other forum members cars, including my Ed30.  No garage is perfect, pay your money and take your choice.

What is not in question is their wish to rectify, and regain.  Or their wish to bend over backwards to assist 

My observation of the VWR situation IMO, (and i have had many a chat with MW and Sam over this), is that being massively successful and subsequently busy with their racing commitments.  That and happy Road car customers do not mix IMO.  Attention to detail is always the victim of over committal, something we are fairly hot on in my profession. 

So companies strive to find the nirvana of correct balance of tempo and commitments, too little and you will lose focus and you will fall-over, too great and focus again de-grades, in both cases focus (standards) is the major victim.

This is not an easily achievable condition, and usually does not last too long, before such variables as manpower shortages, or unexpected failures muddy the water (there are infinite ingredients to the condition and the loss of one or a few soon place the condition in jeopardy).

Like TC - I get on well with the lads, I have had many a good laugh with Sam, Simon, Legs and Matt them, however they need to decide what they want to focus on - Racing or Customer cars.

I have direct experience of their cock-ups (3 times) and subsequent apologies and regains.  Yet, I still have MW's mobile number in my phone.

Remember despite what others may say, we work hard for our money and want to feel customer focus of the correct level, and at times VWR have not achieved this successfully.  I must say that direct contact (when achieved - (as alluded to they are normally busy) usually has the desired effect)

So do I think that VWR are better than your local decent Independent?  They should be and certainly would be if......

Please also Remember the forum will only grow, and prosper on the standard of information on here, and bad experiences need reporting as much as good, in spite of other members preferences.

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #107 on: December 01, 2010, 08:48:16 pm »
^^^^
That's a very good overview, Dave.

I totally accept and believe people when they say that they have had less than good experiences BUT they need to also accept that others (such as myself for example) have had nothing but good experiences.

As I have said many times before I've had good experiences of VWR and so that's what I report. Others also report their experiences, both good and bad, and hence the forum has a raft of reports from which they can make up their own minds.


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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #108 on: December 01, 2010, 11:48:01 pm »
Ive never used VWR... I have used AMD (mixed views), AwesomeGTI (not impressed) and  TTSRoadsport (impressed)!

Lets all face it... if we didnt use a garage based on hearing one bad thing about them we wouldnt use ANY of them!

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #109 on: January 14, 2012, 01:35:31 pm »
Guys, one question...
I am considering buying a VWR Lower engine mount. The problem is I have a 1.4 TFSI engine. DO you know if the engine mount I need is the same as the GTI one?

Thanks  :drinking:.

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #110 on: January 14, 2012, 11:01:20 pm »
I think the mount for the 1.4 is different...
Without traction power is nothing!

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #111 on: January 15, 2012, 09:12:46 am »
My guess is that the subframe is identical. So, all that remains is that the upper part (where it meets the engine) is the same.
Can someone with ETKA please check that? My engine code is CAXA.
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« Last Edit: January 21, 2012, 02:34:01 pm by rex »

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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #112 on: January 15, 2012, 06:40:38 pm »
I believe that you can buy this mount from any vibratechnics dealer now.  The vt website now states a price and has removed the text stating you have to buy from racingline.

So the title should possibly be renamed?
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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2012, 11:28:38 pm »

And if you have a problem call vwr and discuss it with them  :popcornsoda:


....Hear! Hear!  :congrats:

And I wonder what kind of aftersales service you get if buying from Vibra-Techniques. Who are they? Google throws up a company specialising in vibrators  :laugh:

Erm, the 'proper' company name has been going YEARS (much longer than VWR).  VibraTechnic made mounts for stuff like Mk1 Escorts, Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, and the likes.  Why is it you can still get every other mount they make from a variety of suppliers - the only one to have exclusive is this Mk5 lower rear mount.  Make your own minds up, rather than being spoon-fed by all the VWR fan-boys!
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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2012, 11:35:57 pm »
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Some people have had experiences of VWR which they don't like and others (such as myself and Mat and many others) have had nothing but good experiences. You can apply that to every single company which exists. It's very simple: If you don't like or approve of a company then either challenge them directly and not by sniping at them whilst hiding in an internet forum, or don't use them and instead use the companies you favour.
Robin, this isn't about 'workmanship'.  This is simply about supplying a part - nothing more, nothing less.  This particular part was available through a variety of sources - and then VWR MANOPOLISED the supply, and virtually doubled the price.  This kind of behaviour wouldn't be allowed at say Germany or France (actually, if they were to do sommat like this in France - their place would get torched).

This thread, and these gripes are NOT questioning the workmanship of VWR, or their motorsport operations - the latter of which I give exceedingly high praise.  Lets stick to the specific issue.  :drinking:
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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2012, 11:47:05 pm »
lgosh, you guys putting me off paying out now!! lol.

same product? are vwr mounts the exact same product as another brand or we just saying that for the argument sake?

The same product appeared on JKM's site for half the price, with a different name. Then they were forced to stop selling them once stock ran out i believe ( could be wrong ).
Steve you should not be put off using them, as i said before, it;s a great experience taking your car there.  :happy2:

All i was pointing out was that they over charge big style on a lot of products that just have there name stamped on them.
Just as VWR did with their 'unique' "VWR Quaife" diff . . .   :stupid:  Remember all the grief I took when I uncovered that one?  :sad1:  Thankfully, I only had to deal with just one fan-boy then!  :booty:

And you are spot on with JKM - that was exactly around the time I was doing mine - one week JKM had them - I dithered a little, finally went to order it from JKM - and then suddenly had to drop my trooos and take one up the hoop for nearly twice the price from VWR!  :fighting:


Tc you know I do most of my own stuff on cars and I would take my car to others but the 2 times I have it's come back fooked and with cross threaded bolts  :fighting: and just poor workmanship. I would and do trust awesome Gti with my car as they have done a few bits on it so blind no just know who I want working on my car and trust with it so it's that simple and as for the price of these mounts if you don't like the price don't buy them simple buy something else

Mat the whole point of this forum is to help each other out as a community, you yourself have been very helpful to me and other's. part of that community spirit is sharing info which helps us all get the best deal.  :drinking:
Exactly - and more importantly, not getting overly defensive if someone says something maybe slightly unpaletable about a particular company.
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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2012, 11:57:54 pm »
^^^^
That's a very good overview, Dave.

I totally accept and believe people when they say that they have had less than good experiences BUT they need to also accept that others (such as myself for example) have had nothing but good experiences.
But the trouble is, Robin, it is YOUR point of view - or NO-BODIES point of view!  You can be quite bloody-minded in forcing your opinions, and oppressing others opinions.  :smiley:


As I have said many times before I've had good experiences of VWR and so that's what I report. Others also report their experiences, both good and bad, and hence the forum has a raft of reports from which they can make up their own minds.
This thread is NOT about 'service'.  It IS about (a) is the product in question any good?, (b) where can I get it from?, and (c) how much is it?

Just because YOU had a good experience of some work done on your motor - that has NO relevance to this thread!  There are tons of other threads discussing the merits of VWR workmanship.  Stop trying to muddy the water in this thread, please:smiley:
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Re: VWR 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #117 on: February 05, 2012, 12:02:05 am »
I believe that you can buy this mount from any vibratechnics dealer now.  The vt website now states a price and has removed the text stating you have to buy from racingline.

So the title should possibly be renamed?

R U sure Alex?

I remember when I bought mine, (when they just given the monopoly to VWR) - there were some <cough> discrepancies on the VibraTechnics website.  Maybe someone can check with say JKM - whom I'm sure would be delighted to have some back on their books again.
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Re: VWR / Vibratechnics 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #118 on: February 05, 2012, 12:44:38 am »
Wtf move on tt times have changed  :confused: no one cares but if call Vwr and ask them about the mounts you wil know they asked  the company to make the mounts for the mk5 chassis and worked with them in the development of the mounts. But give Vwr a call and talk to them

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Re: VWR / Vibratechnics 'Fast Road' Lower Engine Mount - Review....
« Reply #119 on: February 05, 2012, 12:58:53 am »
Wtf move on tt times have changed  :confused: no one cares but if call Vwr and ask them about the mounts you wil know they asked  the company to make the mounts for the mk5 chassis and worked with them in the development of the mounts. But give Vwr a call and talk to them
Yawn.  VWR did not create the spec for the VibraTechnic mount.  Like I said, VT have FAR more experience of making mounts than VWR - making mounts is all that VT do.

Maybe you need an appointment with a surgeon.  :wink:
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