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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #570 on: October 11, 2012, 07:21:36 pm »
How come this wasnt found before when they loaded it?  I would have thought logging it would showed this up.



When it was loaded I was stage 1, so it didn't really affect anything, just made the car a little perkier than it would have been.
I'm on about when the S2+ was loaded. If its being cut by the DSG would it not have shown up on the requested load, boost or timing logs when the map was uploaded?


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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #571 on: October 11, 2012, 07:30:44 pm »


I don't think its the Revo flash Alex, the manuals make much more torque as do the earlier DSG's, I've not really had time to get much data from Johns car as he likes me to work on it as he slowly drives it through the shop  'California car wash style kind a thing'
Most of the K04 converted cars I drive and dyno do tend to build a much lower torque to the redline than the factory K04 cars with the spike early on, I don't know if its built into the K03 to K04 flash to save the engine (obviously not a concern for you) but I agree mapped like that the 2WD's do get the power down nicely & are great for the track etc bit V-tech in delivery I do like it!  but the 4WD cars need the grunt

:Yes data logs would show all areas backed off in demand like I said prob due to the throttle closing, I would imagine that's how the torque management would work

I think we'll find out next week what's the problem with Mr H's car, won't be pretty for one particular chap I think  :fighting:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #572 on: October 11, 2012, 07:47:44 pm »
Well I'm royally P1ssed off. After phoning JBS and them saying that they would look at the DSG map on Monday, James tried phoning me and then when I phoned him back he said that the problem is that I have Revo on the car and not their own Custom code Phase 2 engine software. That their will be a conflict between their DSG software and the Revo software and only C-C engine software would ensure that the DSG map would ensure that the torque wouldn't be limited. I asked how much their Phase 2 software would be and how much power it would give and they quoted 360bhp and 350lbft, so is it even worth changing for that as I'm getting a solid 320lbft  and 365bhp already. I have had C-C software at phase 2 and it isn't the strongest map on the block, so I don't want to go splunking another £600 for a product that I've had before and wasn't that strong.

To be honest the map is decent, but isn't as promised. on their own website it says......

"Custom-Code DSG Phase 2 software is aimed at drivers who demand the most from their cars. With the Phase 2 DSG software aimed at cars with more significant hardware modifications; Performance exhausts, supercharger and turbo upgrades and delivers an exhilarating experience when combined with our Phase 2 or 3 ECU software, with fully custom settings for launch control, torque settings and enhanced shift points to suit your vehicle set up."

Now when I went to Midland VW, they phoned JBS and actually asked if the map would be okay with my software and that the torque limiter would be uprated to the 550nm and Kevin at JBS said to Chris at MVW that it would be, which now isn't the case.

James at JBS initially told me that I should have both maps as they compliment each other and other maps wouldn't work as well, but I was Revo at this stage and so had Chris speak to JBS on my behalf and when Kevin at JBS confirmed that it would work regardless that is when I went ahead.

So, now I'm going to go with GIAC software as it is a true stand alone software, rather than what seems to be a solution based on compromises, which I'm not prepared to work with. I will be asking for a refund as I believe that the software isn't suitable for me and that it isn't as advertised or as I had been told it would work.

I've no doubt that the software may work with C-C's own software well, but it shouldn't be sold on their website as a stand alone solution. it should be on the same web page as their engine map as an add-on, explaining that it will not work fully without the C-C performance engine software.

There is a negative part of me that thinks that the torque limit was deliberately left in there by JBS as an excuse to get me to buy their phase 2 software as I cannot see how the Revo software would "conflict" to re-restrict the DSG torque levels, but I'm sure that is just me being negative.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #573 on: October 11, 2012, 07:50:07 pm »
An APR Stg2+ trial perhaps?
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #574 on: October 11, 2012, 07:54:38 pm »
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #575 on: October 11, 2012, 07:58:37 pm »

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #576 on: October 11, 2012, 08:02:12 pm »
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #577 on: October 11, 2012, 08:02:31 pm »
An APR Stg2+ trial perhaps?

No, I think whatever engine map (Barring C-C) I put on the car it would not resolve the torque limiting issue.

I will be going for a Loba upgrade next year, so it makes sense to go for the GIAC as by then both GAIC and Revo will have complete solutions for the turbo. C-C won't have even seen a Loba turbo.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #578 on: October 11, 2012, 08:16:40 pm »
We all know what JBS stands for right?...

James' Bull sh*t!  :happy2:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #579 on: October 11, 2012, 08:23:49 pm »
We all know what JBS stands for right?...

James' Bull sh*t!  :happy2:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #580 on: October 11, 2012, 08:24:35 pm »
I thought APR got around the dsg torque limitation without needing to map the dsg

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #581 on: October 11, 2012, 08:33:39 pm »
John have you spoken with autograph tuning in burnley. I have from a good source been told they have the same software hpa in the us use to flash the mech unit in your box. Not only that but they can set it up exactly as you want it, where you want torque limits, clamping pressure everything. Not just that, it is all able to be done from what ive been told without removing the mech unit and just plugging in and adjusting parameters for exactly what you want from the car.  :happy2:

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #582 on: October 11, 2012, 08:38:11 pm »
Sorry if I'm missing the point but does it not take only 10 minutes to raise the torque limit??.

It did when mine was done. (Custom tuner in Ireland).

Why won't they just do this for you.
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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #583 on: October 11, 2012, 09:01:23 pm »
Sorry if I'm missing the point but does it not take only 10 minutes to raise the torque limit??.

It did when mine was done. (Custom tuner in Ireland).

Why won't they just do this for you.

This is exactly the point it can be done but they won't and are making excuses
Wrong really & just pushes more and more people away from using them

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Re: Hurdy's Golf .:R
« Reply #584 on: October 11, 2012, 09:05:31 pm »
Sorry if I'm missing the point but does it not take only 10 minutes to raise the torque limit??.

It did when mine was done. (Custom tuner in Ireland).

Why won't they just do this for you.

This is exactly the point it can be done but they won't and are making excuses
Wrong really & just pushes more and more people away from using them

Another example of JBS's customer service... I've heard nothing but bad things about these guys, suprised anyone uses them tbh...
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