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Forum Fund
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50/50 Split
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Total Members Voted: 70

Voting closed: September 13, 2012, 09:08:32 am

Author Topic: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread  (Read 13084 times)

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2012, 11:59:44 pm »
I voted forum fund as I don't think it deserves the hassle SteveP would have had trying to keep everyone happy otherwise.
I would have been happy with any charity he chose, but hey, let's rig the democracy. :innocent:
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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2012, 12:05:37 am »

TBH its unfortunate as its now put me off donating to such causes in the future though.


I'd do it again.
We don't know the reasons.
Are we sure the other Phil Miller is the same Phil Miller?
Maybe it wasn't as bad and was blown out of proportions and he is embarrassed?


....I'd do it again too. Every single case and person is different.

No, we don't know the reasons yet.

Yes, we can be 99.9% sure it is the same Phil Miller - Everything checks out (I could go into detail but please take my word on it).

Let's for a moment say that his accident wasn't as bad as we all think and that he feels embarrassed as you suggest: It isn't difficult to say something like "Hey guys, that's an amazing thing you have all done but there is no need, I am absolutely fine now, and so I suggest you either bung it into the Forum Fund or refund folks".

It seems so out of character as we perceive him for him not to respond at all, and so he's not doing his reputation any good by ignoring us. I think I have now lost total respect for him unless he reappears in the next day or so.


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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2012, 12:12:16 am »
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2012, 12:17:06 am »

I voted forum fund as I don't think it deserves the hassle SteveP would have had trying to keep everyone happy otherwise.

I would have been happy with any charity he chose, but hey, let's rig the democracy. :innocent:
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....I agree wholeheartedly about not wanting to give SteveP extra hassle trying to keep absolutely everyone happy - An impossible task.

I'm not alone in being very choosy indeed about which charities I do or don't want to give to and that means that I won't allow anyone to choose for me. This isn't a democracy with elected representatives. We each made a voluntary contribution towards a specific cause and that cause has hit a brick wall of silence.


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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2012, 12:40:56 am »
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.


 :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:


Has anyone actually been in touch with him yet? It could be that he has taken a turn for the worse  :surprised:

Is Moz the only forum member that physically knows Phil?

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2012, 12:48:45 am »

Has anyone actually been in touch with him yet? It could be that he has taken a turn for the worse  :surprised:

Is Moz the only forum member that physically knows Phil?


....His posts today on another forum suggest that he has not taken any turn for the worse.

Someone PM Moz?

IIRC, SteveP has been in touch and has reported trying to get a response more recently, but without success.


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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2012, 08:10:31 am »
There is a phil miller here... not sure if its the same person but he has been posting all through august.

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2012, 08:20:06 am »
There is a phil miller here... not sure if its the same person but he has been posting all through august.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=42647

It's definitely the same guy - the mobile number in this thread is the same as listed on a few of his posts on the other forum.

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2012, 08:22:32 am »
If something smells fishy..... its usually a fish!

I'd now prefer my money to go to the forum than to phil miller.

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2012, 09:05:42 am »
I personally think people should stop coming to totally unfounded and speculative assumptions until the full facts have been established. There could be a number of reasons as to why there has been no contact, and until this is established I'd be inclined to keep our thoughts to ourselves.

What I was trying to say +1.

Not keen on all this 'my money' talk either.

Like I said 'I' donated some money its now not 'mine'!

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2012, 09:06:50 am »
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If indeed there have been some circumstances which none of us here have anticipated, and hence some justification for Phil Miller's lack of response, then at least he should learn that it's a better course of action to respond to people rather than ignore them when they have reached out to help. Historically he has been good to the folks of this forum and we have responded and been good to him.

It's a mystery but one which needs solving, IMO.


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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2012, 09:12:32 am »
Tbh I don't really care.

My conscience is clear.

When I give to charity then people say months later ' oh the directors spent all the money' its them in the wrong not me.

I'm 100% not saying that's not the case here as its not, just giving an example of my thought method.

Good intentions at the time which can turn bad is kinda not worth worrying about.

Like I said do what you want with 'mine'!

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2012, 09:23:42 am »

Not keen on all this 'my money' talk either.

Like I said 'I' donated some money its now not 'mine'!


....It's not about the money but I understand what you mean - You are perhaps thinking that it's like tax in that as soon as it's handed over to a government's coffers it's theirs to do what they will with (although lots of people are led to believe for the sake of serving political interests, that it's still their money).

But it's not like a tax - We have volunteered and paid money to a specific cause and the forum admin team have consulted and asked us to vote where we would now like the money to go due to the circumstances of no response from the 'beneficiary' (Phil Miller).

Bloody Hell! It only needs a simple few words from Phil Miller (if it's not too late). Otherwise we simply express our wishes to the admin team. Thank You, Steve(P), for giving us this opportunity to discuss and vote - It's appreciated  :drinking:


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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2012, 10:19:25 am »
I agree Robin.

I'm just a bit upset by some of the 'what's happening to my money'!

I'm not a big giver if I'm honest I prefer to receive lol! But when I do I do and that's that.

Over and out.

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Re: Phil Miller Fund - Voting Thread
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2012, 01:42:21 pm »
I know longer have his E-Mail or mobile number I'm afraid.