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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2012, 10:39:10 pm »
AndrewJB on here will be a pretty good guy to ask, he had stage 2 DPF delete on his Leon Fr TDI and was pushing over 220Hp with a Shark remap.

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2012, 10:43:22 pm »
When I was doing 25k+ a year, I had a leggy diesel hatchback and a toy car for fun. Was the cheapest way to get my motoring thrills, and punting a lazy older diesel around made me appreciate the performance of a lighter agile car all the more. The other good thing was that I'd park the diesel anywhere and not give a damn. Not suggesting a GTI is a car to be treasured (only a hatchback after all... flame suit on), but it's a bit more interesting and worthy of a bit more respect and care.

Might not suit your circumstances, but a 4-5 year old repmobile is a cheap way to travel. Failing that keep the E30, buy a Toyota Aygo and a mask - they're great on fuel and surprisingly good fun!

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2012, 11:39:06 pm »
335d or 535d

Check out the BHP and Torque with a remap   :surprised:

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2012, 11:44:14 pm »
but, he said 14k or less.  Have a look on auto trader for 335d or 535d beamers for that price.  They arent many at all, and what few there are have massive mileage

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2012, 11:47:24 pm »
That said what about a BMW Alpina D3? 215hp std, 245hp @ stage 1

Plenty of them for sub 14k, and thats alot of car for the money.
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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2012, 06:36:35 am »
AndrewJB on here will be a pretty good guy to ask, he had stage 2 DPF delete on his Leon Fr TDI and was pushing over 220Hp with a Shark remap.

This is the same as mine. Stage 2 with DPF/EGR delete with shark software and running 216bhp/464nm.

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2012, 12:38:29 pm »
but, he said 14k or less.  Have a look on auto trader for 335d or 535d beamers for that price.  They arent many at all, and what few there are have massive mileage

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2012, 12:49:55 pm »
I didn't say there were none, I said not many.  I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k  personally.

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2012, 02:17:56 pm »
I didn't say there were none, I said not many.  I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k  personally.

Exactly...

Not when i can get a facelifted Octavia vRS TDi estate 170 in Dark grey with under 20k miles... Hmmm do I do it?
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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2012, 02:37:29 pm »
Swap it. My ed30 was stage 2+ , went to a 123d and didnt bother mapping it for 12 months, now stage 1and I have never regretted the swap... Once or twice something really powerful has passed and ive thought 'the golf wouldve stayed with that'... thats it...

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2012, 05:12:04 pm »
Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2012, 06:49:07 pm »
Iv been considering a touareg v10 tdi..... Beat that torque figure (and mpg figure)

Which car are you referring to? The Toerag will not better any of those Diesels when its average on a combined cycle is 23 MPG...

OP - The 170 Diesels are no doubt good cars but imo there are better diesels on the market for a similar price...I think the GTD is a bit expensive in comparison.

Perhaps dropping to a 330D would be not as large a performance drop than a TDI 170 would be.

If your heart is set on VAG then fair enough you wont end up with a shocker.

Also DPF removal may become an issue in the future if regulations change?
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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2012, 08:20:21 pm »
I didn't say there were none, I said not many.  I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k  personally.

Sorry pal my mistake.

I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.

I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.

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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2012, 09:44:36 pm »
I didn't say there were none, I said not many.  I wouldn't pay circa 14k for a 5 year old car with 60k  personally.

Sorry pal my mistake.

I'v come from a 170 PPD and it's the worst motor I have ever owned personally, you may be lucky and I hope you do. The injectors go wrong but are under warranty, the DPF's clog badly, and sensors go. I had my DPF removed prior to problems. The turbo had a bit of play so that was replaced, the head cracked leading me to fork out a £2500 bill.

I wish all this was a one off but theres quite a few people with the problems mentioned. Let's hope you do get good one.

I think the 09 onwards TDI is better for DPF reliability. There are many MK5 petrols and diesels with problems (Oil consumption anyone?) and I agree there is more than a one off!
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Re: Diesel after Stage 2 Edition?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2012, 10:03:30 pm »

Still considering the Fabia vRS estate?