Understeer worse with WALK

[vRSAlex]

That is the worst alignment I've seen in a long time.  Back hasn't been touched. Take it back and ask why the  rear wasn't done.

Rear camber should be -1.45 both sides and 0.05 toe either side.  

[vRSAlex]

Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have the figures for fast road set up on the gti??

Stick to stock settings for the road.  Spot on really.  I can do something more aggressive if you like oversteer or a really sharp turn in.

[tony_danza]

In rough terms for fast road...

As much caster and camber as you can get on the front with a fraction of toe in.
Rear .5degree less neg camber than the fronts and parallel toe.

Warning. It will feel very French.

C4MKV - as Alex says, that's pretty sh*te. Take it back.

[rich83]

How much difference is there between 0.05 an parallel rear in the way it handles?

Whats the trick to increase turn in speed? Less front toe in?

[tony_danza]

For safety's sake, they add grip to the rear so the front loses it first, dialling it back gives more mobility al la French Clutter.

If you want silly turn in, go front toe out, but it'll wander around like a pig on rollerskates  

There's not much point me trying to explain, as it's far more complex than what I've said - but any decent place should be able to transfer your 'wants' into a decent geo.

[dave]

I have a hunter alignment machine at work really good machine ill just stick to stock figures then. Will it matter that I'm down 30mm on H&R springs?

[rich83]

Alex set mine up great a while back... but humping my car up a kerb ever day has knocked it out, doesn't feel quite as planted now.

[Hedge]

Last year the garage that fitted my winters stood the rear wheels up almost vertical.

Coupled with the added fun of brand new winters the handling felt very "sporty" in fact lethal doesn't quite cover it.

Since been fixed but it was sh*t for a while. 

[Matto]

Just for info this is my alignment prinout after Alex had done with it. Superpro ALK, H&R springs and rear arb. Handling is fantastic. So much fun to drive.

[tony_danza]

And that's how it's done...

Awesomely lazy as usual. Ask for 50% of the geo fee back, seeing as they've only done 50% of it.

[Janner_Sy]

Yep, here's a pic:

I remember after having my ARBs fitted and the GEO setup by JKM a few years back and after my car felt really really bad, so much so I put it on ramps when i was at home to check if anything had become loose.  I then took it to Wheels In Motion for a geo check and found the geo was way off.  £112 sheets later and the car felt fantastic.

Get some money back from Awesome for the half arsed attempt, then go to a garage who has the correct alignment gear.  I normally check to see if the garage is using Hunter alignment gear, if so then ill consider them.

[andrewparker]

Just for info this is my alignment prinout after Alex had done with it. Superpro ALK, H&R springs and rear arb. Handling is fantastic. So much fun to drive.

Would that setup be applicable to a car with no suspension upgrades?

[rex]

Yes, but not 100% the same.

[RedRobin]

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JKM use guys with a Hunter rig................



^ My car feels extremely well planted on this setup ^

[Janner_Sy]

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JKM use guys with a Hunter rig................

they did it in the workshop when i was there, but that was  back in 2007/2008