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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #165 on: September 06, 2009, 02:18:33 pm »

Does the ITG intake also have an oval shaped housing for the maf like OEM?


....I don't know the definitive answer to that question but in the light of your excellent posted info about MAF tuning parameters etc, I'm fairly confident it's no longer a secret that ITG have been working closely with Revo in the development of their latest intake.
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #166 on: September 06, 2009, 02:19:56 pm »
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which has to be a defined diameter to give accurate readings: 67mm

With aftermaket intakes this 67mm internal diameter is a best guesstimate as these intakes all come with circular cross sectional  piping whereas the oem air box has the maf sited where the cross section is not circular but ellipitical.  
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #167 on: September 06, 2009, 02:28:59 pm »
does anybody have the HKS part numbers?  :smiley:


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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2009, 02:46:42 pm »
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which has to be a defined diameter to give accurate readings: 67mm

With aftermaket intakes this 67mm internal diameter is a best guesstimate as these intakes all come with circular cross sectional  piping whereas the oem air box has the maf sited where the cross section is not circular but ellipitical. 

Which is why I asked if the ITG was oval shaped  :happy2:

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #169 on: September 06, 2009, 06:08:25 pm »
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....I don't know the definitive answer to that question but in the light of your excellent posted info about MAF tuning parameters etc, I'm fairly confident it's no longer a secret that ITG have been working closely with Revo in the development of their latest intake.

A pertinent question to put to Revo when deciding on an intake  then would be how do they calibrate the MAF on their remaps?  Is it left at OEM (67cm diameter) or do they change it?
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #170 on: September 06, 2009, 06:56:51 pm »
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....I don't know the definitive answer to that question but in the light of your excellent posted info about MAF tuning parameters etc, I'm fairly confident it's no longer a secret that ITG have been working closely with Revo in the development of their latest intake.


A pertinent question to put to Revo when deciding on an intake  then would be how do they calibrate the MAF on their remaps?  Is it left at OEM (67cm diameter) or do they change it?


....Very pertinent indeed! :happy2:

And furthermore, how do the other tuners calibrate the MAF on their remaps.


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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #171 on: September 06, 2009, 07:09:33 pm »
I know that APR use the standard OEM calibration for the MAF  :happy2:

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #172 on: September 06, 2009, 07:11:29 pm »
I know that APR use the standard OEM calibration for the MAF  :happy2:

TBH I can't see any tuner doing anything different, but I have asked the question of Revo  :happy2:

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #173 on: September 06, 2009, 07:36:19 pm »
Good man Steve, will be interested to hear the answer.

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #174 on: September 06, 2009, 07:45:46 pm »
I know that APR use the standard OEM calibration for the MAF  :happy2:

True but for completeness, their stage 3 BT kit uses an APR bespoke calibration.
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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #175 on: September 06, 2009, 09:53:52 pm »
I do! And deal directly with HKS Europe. I may also have a 2nd hand one for sale in the next few weeks too...

does anybody have the HKS part numbers?  :smiley:

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2009, 10:05:18 am »
Hi Steve;

Thanks for the mail; I’ll keep it short and straight to the point as i've got work coming out of me ears!

Scaling the maf to a larger size is a pointless task and would require tuning to suit, the stock maf housing is perfectly suitable for almost any given application unless you're going for a massive turbo setup (GT35+) and in which case you may as well run without a maf..

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2009, 12:21:45 pm »
I do! And deal directly with HKS Europe. I may also have a 2nd hand one for sale in the next few weeks too...

does anybody have the HKS part numbers?  :smiley:

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #178 on: September 07, 2009, 04:51:02 pm »
It doesnt specify either way, I'll find out.

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Re: forge twintake air intake available end Aug 09
« Reply #179 on: September 08, 2009, 05:32:50 am »
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which has to be a defined diameter to give accurate readings: 67mm

With aftermaket intakes this 67mm internal diameter is a best guesstimate as these intakes all come with circular cross sectional  piping whereas the oem air box has the maf sited where the cross section is not circular but ellipitical. 

Which is why I asked if the ITG was oval shaped  :happy2:

No, as far as I am aware its circular tubing, but the diameter of the pipework chosen was based around the consideration of MAF requirement and not around restriction of pipework. I would imagine a calculation has been done to evaluate the internal area of the oval pipework, and then this has been replicated. I can speak to Andy Jackson at some point to ask the question, but the reason for the late reply is I'm currently overseas on annual leave, so access to t'internet for the next couple of weeks will be sporadic.
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