DPF (2.0tdi) what's the score?

[swgti]

As above really what's the score with this DPF ??? currently looking into getting a B6 Passat or B7 A4 and there's a lot of chatter about DPF issues on the 2.0tdi engine?

Am I just being paranoid and reading too much into internet chatter or is it a real potential issue?

Does this affect all cars with the 140 and 170 engine or just certain models/years of manufacure?

What are the solutions to this? I see places offering DPF deletes, is this straight forward?

Also anyone with any experience of this engine your advice would be appreciated, I know about the injector recall issue but anything else to be aware of when buying would be useful.

[Deako]

Mines got a DPF and not had any issues so far. It had 41k miles when i got the car, and there had been no issues with the DPF with the previous owner either (i brought it from work, so could check the entire service history).

Basically, if you only intend to ever do short journeys in the car, dont get one with a DPF.

[swgti]

So by the sounds of that some cars have them and others don't? how do you know?

[Deako]

You would need to look at manufacturer data. Most cars do have DPFs these days, as they reduce soot a huge amount. My diesel exhaust gets less black than any petrol ive had.

[xjay1337]

So by the sounds of that some cars have them and others don't? how do you know?

Plenty of information on google.. since this is a very common question.

Only the 170s and the bluemotions had DPFs , if you had a normal 2.0 140 BKD then no DPF for you.

[Matto]

So by the sounds of that some cars have them and others don't? how do you know?

Plenty of information on google.. since this is a very common question.

Only the 170s and the bluemotions had DPFs , if you had a normal 2.0 140 BKD then no DPF for you.

As Jay said it was mostly the 170's that had the DPF fitted but I think some of the later 140 started to have them fited. I have had the DPF removed and it does make it a better car. Mine would stutter all the time and just drive like a pig. I started off with just having the guts removed when I had the remap but have recently fitted a proper delete pipe.

I mate of mine had big problems with his mk5 170. His was blocked solid and was getting exhuast fumes blowing back through the turbo and pipework. Also bent a couple of valves aswell in the process. I'm not sure on the later cars that have them fitted whether they have managed to get them to work better than the early ones. I know whatever I have next (possibly a mk6 GTD) it will be having the DPF removed to prevent issues further down the line.

[xjay1337]

The CR engines are OK with a DPF, its the PD stuff that is not quite so good.

[paulw123]

My 2008 140 gt tdi sport has a DPF, gets the road tax down to £140 
It's done 83,000 miles, anybodies DPF done more than that?

[marko]

over 100k on my 07 2.0tdi 170..
light has come on a few times  but just needs a quick regeneration on the motorway.
i used to drive 150 miles a day to and from work without any problems then got a new job 3 miles from home and thats when i started getting the dpf light on maybe once a fortnight...

[paulw123]

thanks Marko, so far you have the record 

your signature says you have Ed30 front splitter, did that fit ok onto a gt tdi undertray & bumper?

[Eccie]

91k on my 55 plate 140 TDI Audi - no problems so far (I've said it now....... )

[PDT]

We remove 3-4 dpf's a week on the 2.0 170 ppd engines, the 140ppd suffer as well but are not so common. Removal isn't as expensive as it used to be, around £4-500 including software is the going rate for a professional job. Cars that use biodiesel (I.e morrisons diesel) and do short journeys are the worst, we have seen them fail at 30k miles or 150k miles, there's no real guarantee based on mileage.

If you have vagcom you can keep an eye on how the DPF is doing, blocks 074-077 give info on back pressure, time and miles since last regen and other values, as well as doing a forced regen yourself.

A lot of dpf's fail due to other components failing such as the differential pressure sensor or EGR valve. If you need to know any specifics, just ask.

[rdfcpete]

Basically, if you only intend to ever do short journeys in the car, dont get one with a DPF.

+ What Luke said.

I've basically got the same motor as Luke and my engine had notorious problems in the pre-facelift 8P A3's with DPFs. These were resolved late 2008 onwards.

I do 25 miles a day commuting alone but at least every three weeks or so I'll take it for a B Road proper drive, ensuring exhaust temperatures are raised on a warm engine, enough to burn off the soot.

Apparently some DPF'ed VAG cars do an automatic regeneration as often as every 300 miles which can be tweaked in VCDS - only learnt that this week in honesty 

[warby]

My sisters 07 170 has just had a right stroke. Went for injector recall then a week after the dpf light comes on, then the eml, then the coil and finally limp mode.

The Nissan garage she bought it from has sent it to the vw dealer and they're now scratching their heads as "there are no codes".

Would a dpf delete likely cure this as I'm pig sick of loaning her my gti when she needs to go to college on the mainland as the courtesy car can't be taken across.

Dpf delete time? Or time to send it back and buy her old pd150 mk4 back, that was the best car ever!

For info it's a 2007 170 bmn engine at 27k miles with service history (can't remember the extent)

[marko]

thanks Marko, so far you have the record 

your signature says you have Ed30 front splitter, did that fit ok onto a gt tdi undertray & bumper?

i bought a genuine oem s/h one that was just painted and was a perfect fit..