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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2013, 04:48:02 pm »
Then you wouldn't be getting any miles to the gallon.


Only if you started the engine.

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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2013, 08:07:09 pm »
The FSI technology is all about maximising fuel economy through lean-burn combustion.

The TFSi doesn't implement stratified injection.

Are you sure??

Best source I could find: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_fuel_stratified_injection
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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2013, 11:36:45 pm »
According to VW:

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkspage.net%2Ftechnik%2Fssp%2Fssp%2FSSP_337.pdf&ei=hcsCUpuaGIPX7Aa0kYHICA&usg=AFQjCNE2Gvyauf6U_4_7Vz8wfE9GsHB4kQ&sig2=pjj9dhEmx0_QI2xIkZNjFA

This is for the AXX engine too - some people have stated previously that the AXX did run stratified charge, but it was removed in the BWA. So this would debunk that theory.
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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2013, 07:33:35 am »
According to VW:

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkspage.net%2Ftechnik%2Fssp%2Fssp%2FSSP_337.pdf&ei=hcsCUpuaGIPX7Aa0kYHICA&usg=AFQjCNE2Gvyauf6U_4_7Vz8wfE9GsHB4kQ&sig2=pjj9dhEmx0_QI2xIkZNjFA

This is for the AXX engine too - some people have stated previously that the AXX did run stratified charge, but it was removed in the BWA. So this would debunk that theory.


Sure looks that way in that link. I'm sure one of the tuners on here talked about the TFSI going into lean-burn mode when cruising. Maybe this is separate from the missing FSI tech  :surprised:
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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2013, 05:53:03 pm »
The FSI technology is all about maximising fuel economy through lean-burn combustion.

The TFSi doesn't implement stratified injection.

Got this from the Wikipedia page but also read the above post and link. Does nothing to clarify does it!  :rolleye:

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engine displacement & engine configuration
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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2013, 11:18:07 pm »
Wikipedia versus a VW AG publication. Take your pick. The VW doc is from 2004: maybe things have changed since then, I don't know.
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Re: Optimum speed for best MPG
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2013, 09:29:03 am »
Okay so one way on my 3 hour trip I drove normally i.e quite quickly  got about 34mpg

Way back cruise control majority of the way set at like 68 mph ,, got 35.4 mpg ... so basically just drive how you enjoy ;)