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Re: Oil
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2014, 12:37:24 pm »
Since the topic has been started, I noticed a lot of members rave about Millers Nanodrive 5w40 - any preference to that over the 5w30 variant? The latter seems to be a lot cheaper.
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Re: Oil
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 12:38:21 pm »
No legally they were allowed to continue advertising as it was deemed synthetic in the respect that "enough" was changed to deem it a synthetic oil...
I'd go for Mobil 1 personally, I only buy Castrol in 1L for top ups.
5w40 is a good option too! Offers slightly more protection when warm . Ran 5w40 in place of 5w30 on my TDI and that lasted me very well indeed!
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Re: Oil
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 12:42:03 pm »
Quote from: xjay1337 on March 13, 2014, 12:03:06 pm
It's a very long story but castrol was not using fully synthetic base stocks, it was lying!! big bad castrol.

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/15817.html

I stand to be corrected but the article pertains to the American Market. I believe the stuff that is sold in America is of a lower standard than the stuff sold in Europe.
Castrol Edge sold in the UK is fully synthetic.

Quote from: skard on March 13, 2014, 12:37:24 pm
Since the topic has been started, I noticed a lot of members rave about Millers Nanodrive 5w40 - any preference to that over the 5w30 variant? The latter seems to be a lot cheaper.

I have made switch last month from Castrol Edge 5w30 to Millers Nanodrive CFS 5w40 - My ED30 is standard so may not see the full benefits. However, the engine does seem smoother on idle. Its also difficult to compare MPG between the two due to the weather getting warmer.

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Re: Oil
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 12:43:04 pm »
Quote from: flashp on March 13, 2014, 11:43:28 am
Quote from: Viking on March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 am
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 13, 2014, 12:58:39 am
Quote from: Viking on March 12, 2014, 07:38:00 pm
Not Castrol for a start.
Why?  :sad1:

Because I'd rather buy a fully synthetic oil instead.

Edge 5W-30 is fully synthetic. It's standard spec for our cars. If you or your service agent has been putting semi in then they've chosen the wrong oil.

As Jay points out, it's not a fully synthetic oil. In Germany (where the law is different) Castrol market their oil as Castrol FST (Fluid Strength Technology) because they're unable to market it as Fully Synthetic. The play on words by using FST implies it's fully synthetic when it isn't.
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Re: Oil
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 01:02:27 pm »
It's been labelled as FST for at least a year over here
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Re: Oil
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 01:23:44 pm »
It's labelled as Castrol FST everywhere.

In the UK it's labelled as FST and marked / marketed and "Fully Synthetic" (see here - Link.)

In Germany it's labelled as FST and nothing else. They omit the "Fully Synthetic" marketing hype (see here - Link.)
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Re: Oil
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 01:35:38 pm »
Nanodrive or Fuchs Titan Race  :happy2:
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Re: Oil
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 08:00:37 pm »
Saying as this has got serious, everyone goes on about using millers 5-40 but what about using millers 5-30 ?
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Re: Oil
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2014, 09:10:35 pm »
Quote from: Chris92 on March 13, 2014, 08:00:37 pm
Saying as this has got serious, everyone goes on about using millers 5-40 but what about using millers 5-30 ?

I asked that also, no answer yet
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Re: Oil
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2014, 10:02:44 pm »
The 5w30 isnt Nano technology.... but what difference that makes, ive no idea!
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Re: Oil
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2014, 01:40:53 pm »
Quote from: Viking on March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 am
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 13, 2014, 12:58:39 am
Quote from: Viking on March 12, 2014, 07:38:00 pm
Not Castrol for a start.
Why?  :sad1:

Because I'd rather buy a fully synthetic oil instead.
Bull$hit - utter UTTER BULL$HIT.

If Castrol state their oils are fully synthetic - then they WILL be fully synthetic!

You arn't a Mobil, or other spam oil fanboy?
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Re: Oil
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2014, 02:11:34 pm »
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 14, 2014, 01:40:53 pm
Quote from: Viking on March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 am
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 13, 2014, 12:58:39 am
Quote from: Viking on March 12, 2014, 07:38:00 pm
Not Castrol for a start.
Why?  :sad1:

Because I'd rather buy a fully synthetic oil instead.
Bull$hit - utter UTTER BULL$HIT.

If Castrol state their oils are fully synthetic - then they WILL be fully synthetic!

You arn't a Mobil, or other spam oil fanboy?

It's really not bullsh*t.
The base oil stocks were not fully synthetic, they were hydrocracked mineral oil which is grade 3 oil, not actually fully synthetic. But due to their processing it was deemed (under industry law) to have had enough done to it to class it as synthetic.
But it's VERY well documented online.


Your last reply was a bit out of order - doncha think?   :confused:
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Re: Oil
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2014, 05:19:45 pm »
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 14, 2014, 01:40:53 pm
Quote from: Viking on March 13, 2014, 11:12:54 am
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on March 13, 2014, 12:58:39 am
Quote from: Viking on March 12, 2014, 07:38:00 pm
Not Castrol for a start.
Why?  :sad1:

Because I'd rather buy a fully synthetic oil instead.
Bull$hit - utter UTTER BULL$HIT.

If Castrol state their oils are fully synthetic - then they WILL be fully synthetic!

You arn't a Mobil, or other spam oil fanboy?

Nice to see you can carry a discussion without resorting to abuse and swearing. Okay, so you don't believe me. Despite the very genuine examples of the point I've put across you just resort to capitalised swearing...

If you don't believe me and XJAY1337, maybe you'll believe a well respected forum trader if they tell you the same thing? Link to Opie Oils.
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Re: Oil
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2014, 11:54:03 pm »
Glad I seen this post, I always was under the impression castrol edge was the one to go for, think I'll go for the millers cfs 5w40 then...
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Re: Oil
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2014, 12:20:39 am »
I personally don't see any point in paying for an oil with a specification far in excess of what is required. If it meets 504 507 it will suffice; it's not as if I'm causing insurmountable damage to my car by using Castrol Edge.

I can understand enthusiasts who wish to treat their cars to the very best however, although the benefits I imagine are minute or non-existent.
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