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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2014, 04:19:04 pm »
the grey leon at goodwood just didn't seem that special and I'm sure the price tag was around£30K, probably all options, but for a seat.......

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(although I do agree to a certain extent. RRP of the Golf R is only 2-3k more and it'll hold its value better!)

Pack your bags and leave this GOLF FORUM......you Spanish infultraitor..... :P

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2014, 05:27:48 pm »
Well I love my new Cupra 280 (Modified of course already)
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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2014, 07:32:52 pm »
Revo stage 1 beta  :driver: :drool: :laugh:http://youtu.be/PsMwbwspLKk

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2014, 12:26:31 am »
maybe the Seat, what with it being lighter than the Golf R, is faster on the sections of cadwell they were using but what got me from the vid was that the vast majority of it had the R in front punching a massive hole in the air whilst the Seat sat in and was declared quicker just because it kept up, then when he finally put the nose of the Cupra into some air resistance lo and behold he had to admit that he couldn't go by...  :stupid:

the best test would be to get Chris Harris on the case.

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2014, 04:40:09 pm »
In their respective Autocar road tests the Cupra and Golf R are listed as weighing 1400kg and 1410kg, so they've either made a typo or they weigh, near as damn it, the same.

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2014, 12:36:42 am »
Great video and it's impressive how fast the Cupra seems to be, given it's normally compared to the GTI rather than the R. I'd still take the Golf though as the Leon interior isn't up to scratch and I think the VW will be easier to live with
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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2014, 08:10:44 am »
I think the VW will be easier to live with

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2014, 05:41:47 pm »
I think the VW will be easier to live with

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As in its just a normal/ relaxed car when you want it to be and more comfortable inside. Leon seems more aggressively setup for track use compared to the Golf.
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2014, 08:27:30 pm »
Had 3 Golf R owners walk up to me today at Inters and all 3 said they wished they had bought the Cupra :p

Put the Cupra in comfort mode and its a sensible family hatch .. Press Cupra and sport mode on DSG and its a different animal

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2014, 11:06:45 pm »
Had 3 Golf R owners walk up to me today at Inters and all 3 said they wished they had bought the Cupra :p

Put the Cupra in comfort mode and its a sensible family hatch .. Press Cupra and sport mode on DSG and its a different animal

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2014, 11:28:11 pm »
This review is a bit odd in as much these cars are quite different, apples and oranges almost. Here's why I think this...

Golf is 4wd, Cupra is 2wd. Cupra is more closely matched to GTI with PP in this regard but has more power so it's not an even match in this case either.
Cupra 4wd is coming, this would be a better match for the Golf R. What will we see between them then I wonder? Probably not much if anything at all.

In my case I consider the Cupra to be the preferred car since I've spent more than I want to add up in getting mine to a similar spec. LSD was so worthwhile but a pricey addition, brakes weren't too cheap either. I bet the Cupra suspension is pretty capable from the factory. Cupra's had the lighter components when comparing a 2008 FR I had to a same year Cupra. For me the Cupra has everything I've added from the factory.

All these need is £500 on a map and I reckon it'll make the same power as my stage 2+ Pirelli.

With a bit of occasional track work a 2wd Cupra 280 plus a stage 1 map will be my next choice. I don't want or need 4wd either.

As an aside...after seeing an engine bay shot of the 280 I noticed how HUGE the airbox is. Should negate the need for an intake at circa 330bhp.

Oh, and it's several £000's cheaper which is nice.  :laugh:

Clearly in the VAG group there's now a vehicle for all preferences. Its is a good thing that there are subtle differences as the finished products can be quite different from one another. We can all have what we want!  :driver:

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2014, 01:01:25 am »
Doubt there will be an AWD Cupra. I reckon if there is an R it'll be more in the vein of the Megane Trophy R. SEAT can't re-take the FWD 'ring record if their car has 4 driven wheels, can they?

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2014, 06:14:00 am »
I raised an eyebrow, but that's what my dealer reckoned. Time will tell.  :popcornsoda:

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2014, 07:00:33 am »
I raised an eyebrow, but that's what my dealer reckoned. Time will tell.  :popcornsoda:

Its not lol  :happy2:

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Re: New Golf R vs New Leon Cupra Review
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2014, 07:51:33 am »
Well another dealer said it will have a 7 speed DSG, too, but we all know that won't work! :laugh: