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Offline SurreyED30

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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2014, 11:05:03 am »
Any joy with the hulks tightening method? Did he loosen them
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2014, 01:50:41 pm »
Had two tyres done recently and had asked them to make sure the torque settings were 120Nm. Watched the guy zap them up with the airgun then apply the torque wrench which immediately went click so I asked him to back them off first and he wasn't terribly pleased but did it. Retorqued them myself when home.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2014, 03:21:13 pm »
I had major issues with my 'main dealer serviced' vehicle.

I had to use an extension handle of about 5 feet in length and it took me 3 hours to remove the bolts. It transpires that the ends of the bolts come through the hub into an area where lots of crud collects. This corrodes/damages the threads.

Couple this with the approved VW method of servicing which dictates that it's not necessary to remove a wheel for anything other pad replacement under normal circumstances then this will be an issue. Even fluid replacement is done with wheels on.

Depending on your mileage and good fortune for puncture repairs it could be a very long time before your wheels are taken off.

All of my bolts, lockers included, were stretched and the threads very visibly distorted. They got replaced under warranty without question and Peter Cooper of Shirley (Southampton) were considering adding wheel bolt removal and re-insertion as a service task as they accepted that normal roadside replacement would not be possible and the bolts were effectively destroyed in the process of removal.

As an aside, before I bought S3 brakes I bought an M14x1.5 tap to run through the bolt holes to clear them out. The amount of corroded metal that came out was startling. New bolts went in nicely though.

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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 04:55:02 pm »
Update,

He came round yesterday and couldn't remove the bolts. All 3 wheels came off albeit with some hefty force...

The front wheels is still on & he's coming back round today with an electric gun to remove the bolts and take out the 2 broken ones. One thing I have noticed since he's fitted the wheels & bolts. When I'm driving I can hear a slight grinding / metallic scraping as if the bolts have went too far Into the hub and are scraping against something? Is this actually possible?

Happens more on full lock to the right whilst reversing (the front right is the side where the bolts are stuck)

Hopefully the bolts remove relatively easy, not sure whether I should be paying him to remove the bolts and broken bolts as most likely he's the cause of them being stuck and broken!! Makes it even worse that I know him and he's a nice guy :signLOL:
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 04:56:51 pm by Black9 »
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 04:55:37 pm »
Oh and thanks everyone for the advice.

Best forum I've used  :happy2:
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2014, 05:12:46 pm »
Quote from: Black9 on July 30, 2014, 04:55:02 pm
Update,

He came round yesterday and couldn't remove the bolts. All 3 wheels came off albeit with some hefty force...

The front wheels is still on & he's coming back round today with an electric gun to remove the bolts and take out the 2 broken ones. One thing I have noticed since he's fitted the wheels & bolts. When I'm driving I can hear a slight grinding / metallic scraping as if the bolts have went too far Into the hub and are scraping against something? Is this actually possible?

Happens more on full lock to the right whilst reversing (the front right is the side where the bolts are stuck)

Hopefully the bolts remove relatively easy, not sure whether I should be paying him to remove the bolts and broken bolts as most likely he's the cause of them being stuck and broken!! Makes it even worse that I know him and he's a nice guy :signLOL:
Sounds like drive shaft mate or knack erred steering rack, what year is the gti as I've read before that the earlia model GTi's had a steering rack recall
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 05:23:19 pm »
It's an early 2005 car. Driveshaft & rack did cross my mind but I was hoping I was wrong  :innocent:

Any sure way to find out??
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2014, 06:22:18 pm »
Disc shield is a good shout. My rear one was doing the exact same thing
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2014, 07:16:16 pm »
If the wheel bolts won't come out with a breaker bar an electric gun will not shift them..Need a powerful air gun to shift them
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2014, 08:30:14 pm »
Bolts came off eventually with a bar but the 2 broken ones are still stuck inside the hub...

Taking it to the garage nxt wk to have them removed with some heat and possibly removing the disc & CALIPER..

On a side note, I can eventually send my VZ's back to BBS,

How's best to pack them. They will have the tyres still on!

Was thinking of sending them in 2's. Cardboard on the top, middle & bottom and then taped up nice and secure??
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2014, 08:38:57 pm »
IMO if sending the rims back you should remove the tyres before doing so.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2014, 08:48:14 pm »
Quote from: Black9 on July 30, 2014, 08:30:14 pm
Bolts came off eventually with a bar but the 2 broken ones are still stuck inside the hub...

Taking it to the garage nxt wk to have them removed with some heat and possibly removing the disc & CALIPER..

On a side note, I can eventually send my VZ's back to BBS,

How's best to pack them. They will have the tyres still on!

Was thinking of sending them in 2's. Cardboard on the top, middle & bottom and then taped up nice and secure??
Are the bolts snapped in the front or babe careful with heat asthis can knacker the bearing with to much heat.As mentioned best remove the tyres before sending the wheels back
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2014, 09:06:34 pm »
I was going to remove the tyres but the company said to just send them back with tyres on. Must be so BBS can balance them to check if they are buckled. Which they clearly are  :sad1:

Buying these wheels has been 1 issue after another.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2014, 07:51:24 pm »
All 4 VZ's are off and the scraping noise I've mentioned is also gone :stupid:

Should have stayed OEM  :sick:
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