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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2009, 06:32:14 pm »

I have the ITG, cuprak1 the BSH. If I was to do it all again I would have just got the BSH. Nothing beats the BSH for VFM.

We can get some flow figures up to compare the two if someone with VAG COM meets up with us, if not I will try and get DanGB to assist.

....You seem to be suggesting that both the BSH and VF intakes perform (flow?) better than the ITG. Or at least that you prefer either to the ITG - Any other reasons? IIRC you were very keen on the ITG once upon a time.

I have flipped flopped alot on intakes. Originally I really wanted the forge, but then the more I read about the forge and the ITG, I decided that the ITG would be better for me and is more a tested and proven application than the forge, that combined with the MAF housing being the right size for revo software sealed the deal.

At first I never considered the BSH as I didnt know it existed till cuprak1 got one, but by then I had already had my heart set on the ITG and didnt want to have a carbon copy of cuprak1's car either.

However but now if anyone asked me what Intake I would recommend them I would say the BSH, as its the best value for money, and I cant notice any real performance differences between the two on the road.

Not saying one performs better than the other, wont know for sure till we do some logs, but from my own personal experiences you really cant go wrong with the BSH.


KRL, are you attending the surrey rolling road? Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 intakes!
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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2009, 06:34:52 pm »
....

I'm curious - Why have BSH also sealed off the possibility of additional air from the 'headlight' area?

And if the intention is to seal off the filter so it takes all its air from the front upper grill, why not encase the filter completely?



EDIT: You posted just a moment before I did - Thanks for answering my query re ITG vs BSH :happy2:
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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2009, 06:38:28 pm »

Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 cars!


....Yes, NeilM is attending with recently installed Twintake.

But how would to arrive at a conclusive comparison as it's on a differently modified Ed30?


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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2009, 06:39:29 pm »
One thing I would recommend to someone with a K03 car wishing to buy the BSH kit is to get a silicon bung made up. The supplied one that came with my kit melted with the radiated heat from the turbo and lasted all of about 10 minutes.

As a result of this I returned the kit and wouldn't recommend it to anyone personally. I know it's cheap but as many people say and most notably on here 'you get what you pay for'.
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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2009, 06:42:12 pm »

Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 cars!


....Yes, NeilM is attending with recently installed Twintake.

But how would to arrive at a conclusive comparison as it's on a differently modified Ed30?

I want to test all 3 on the same car. I will have my toolbox in hand if neil is up for it and there is someone there with vagcom.

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2009, 06:43:04 pm »

One thing I would recommend to someone with a K03 car wishing to buy the BSH kit is to get a silicon bung made up. The supplied one that came with my kit melted with the radiated heat from the turbo and lasted all of about 10 minutes.

As a result of this I returned the kit and wouldn't recommend it to anyone personally. I know it's cheap but as many people say and most notably on here 'you get what you pay for'.


....Ah, I've been wondering if you would post - I remember you telling me that you weren't overly impressed with the BSH intake but I didn't want to speak for you.

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2009, 06:44:38 pm »

Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 cars!


....Yes, NeilM is attending with recently installed Twintake.

But how would to arrive at a conclusive comparison as it's on a differently modified Ed30?


I want to test all 3 on the same car. I will have my toolbox in hand if neil is up for it and there is someone there with vagcom.


It's up to Neil of course, but I think it takes nearly an hour to install the Twintake (I stand to be corrected).


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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2009, 06:45:50 pm »
If I go down the CAI route then it would be the BSH one, I don't see the point in spending £300+ on a kit. I would even consider the K&N kit which is a similar design and around £200. If i'm allowed to spend anymore money I may consider one.

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2009, 06:47:40 pm »

Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 cars!


....Yes, NeilM is attending with recently installed Twintake.

But how would to arrive at a conclusive comparison as it's on a differently modified Ed30?


I want to test all 3 on the same car. I will have my toolbox in hand if neil is up for it and there is someone there with vagcom.


It's up to Neil of course, but I think it takes nearly an hour to install the Twintake (I stand to be corrected).

The ITG took me a while to install also, but this time round I dont plan on taking it all apart. I dont think AMD did when they had to remove it to work on my car before. I think cuprak1 will know for sure.

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2009, 06:53:36 pm »
KRL, are you attending the surrey rolling road? Any forge twintake owners going to the surrey dyno day? If so we can do a comparison of all 3 intakes!

Afraid I will not be around for that one but will hopefully get to one in the future.

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2009, 06:53:42 pm »

One thing I would recommend to someone with a K03 car wishing to buy the BSH kit is to get a silicon bung made up. The supplied one that came with my kit melted with the radiated heat from the turbo and lasted all of about 10 minutes.

As a result of this I returned the kit and wouldn't recommend it to anyone personally. I know it's cheap but as many people say and most notably on here 'you get what you pay for'.


....Ah, I've been wondering if you would post - I remember you telling me that you weren't overly impressed with the BSH intake but I didn't want to speak for you.

Cue for peanuts and monkeys and then pics of peanut smugglers  :evilgrin:

Thought I could remember speaking to you about it. I don't know if it was a bad batch but i spent the best part of a day trying to get the intake to clear the brake reservoir and in every case it failed. I couldn't simply get a good enough clamp around the coupling and the intake, along with the fact that the intake is matte black and no heat shield is supplied it got bloody warm in running conditions.
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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2009, 06:55:03 pm »
....

I'm curious - Why have BSH also sealed off the possibility of additional air from the 'headlight' area?

And if the intention is to seal off the filter so it takes all its air from the front upper grill, why not encase the filter completely?



EDIT: You posted just a moment before I did - Thanks for answering my query re ITG vs BSH :happy2:

Hopefully Justin or Phil might be able to answer that one  :happy2:

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2009, 07:37:14 pm »
u could always cut a hole in it and put a cold air feed in it from the fog light area

Mods yes but way too many to stick in this little box

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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2009, 07:56:16 pm »
I believe it's designed that way to help reduce induction noise.
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Re: BSH True Seal Intake
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2009, 09:19:56 pm »

u could always cut a hole in it and put a cold air feed in it from the fog light area


....That's a very, very, good idea! Easy to attach as well.

I think I'd be tempted to position the air inlet ot the side of the central lower grill, just below the letter 'D' in my number plate.


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