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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2009, 02:10:54 pm »
I had the K04 rebuild, got APR software for it, had flatspot from 5200 to 6000rpm, the ocational limpmode caused by overboost. After APR made an update on the software in October, no more problems  :happy2:

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2009, 10:24:26 pm »
so was there any revo code updates or code made spcifically for 08 cars + ? maybe i have an old code version loaded on ?

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2009, 10:31:18 pm »
as i said in the beginning of this thread when on bluefin I had a flat spot at about the same spot. but when i changed maps it disappeared.

looking at the before(bluefin) after (Shark performance) air mass readings you can see the big drop in the graph @ about 5200rpm, but not in the second one. Maybe do some logs on yours and see if it does the same
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2009, 10:37:32 pm »
im gonna have to trade it in for something 4wd eventually anyway as I have ambitions of having a car around 500hp.

S3   :grin:

You'd have to spend a fair wack to get it up to 500 bhp though.

If only I could put the k1 shell on a S3  :love:


Comeon revo, share with us what you guys have worked out so far.

They know more about these issues than they are letting on.  :fighting:

Do people know the reason why Revo asked ITG to develop their intake in the first place?

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2009, 10:41:51 pm »
as i said n the scn forum,

I vaguely remember him mentioning to me they were asked to develop it due to some sort of issue. they needed an intake that could consistantly provide enough air.

iirc it was something that occured over the pond. might be unrelated!!

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2009, 10:55:24 pm »
as i said n the scn forum,

I vaguely remember him mentioning to me they were asked to develop it due to some sort of issue. they needed an intake that could consistantly provide enough air.

iirc it was something that occured over the pond. might be unrelated!!


The difference between us brits and the yanks is that they whinge more loudly on the car forums. Any issues that they will be having in the states should be here in the UK also.

Gonna be getting my valves checked soon enough.

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2009, 08:43:44 am »
so was there any revo code updates or code made spcifically for 08 cars + ? maybe i have an old code version loaded on ?

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2009, 11:57:19 am »


Comeon revo, share with us what you guys have worked out so far.

They know more about these issues than they are letting on.  :fighting:

Do people know the reason why Revo asked ITG to develop their intake in the first place?
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We didn't ask ITG to develop any intake kit, ITG approached us when they were working on their 1.8T LCR intake kits asking if we were willing to offer advice and help them out as we know the cars/tuning. From their we continued to help with their TFSI development.

There is a valve spring issue on some of the the 08 onwards TFSI's as per the VAG TSBs, this can cause a 6000rpm + misfire. With an uprated exhaust the problem is less likely to occur. As such we have revised stage1 software available for these cars if required.

Can't get our cars to do this 5200rpm flat spot though.

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2009, 12:38:42 pm »
Kev perhaps myself and pov could come up to your offices and possibly have the cars logged and looked at ?

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2009, 12:56:43 pm »
Hi Kev,

Do you have a copy or a link to the TSB anywhere?

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2009, 04:13:23 pm »
Mine is fine, been running stage 2+ software for a while now even when I was using the standard air box with stage 2+ I didn’t experience  any flat spots.  :happy2:
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2009, 04:17:28 pm »
Mine is fine, been running stage 2+ software for a while now even when I was using the standard air box with stage 2+ I didn’t experience  any flat spots.  :happy2:

Never an issue with mine either..

I think people need to understand that the maps are the same no matter what car there on.. So if there is an issue on one car and not another then its not the software is it?!
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2009, 04:49:05 pm »
Mine is fine, been running stage 2+ software for a while now even when I was using the standard air box with stage 2+ I didn’t experience  any flat spots.  :happy2:

Never an issue with mine either..

I think people need to understand that the maps are the same no matter what car there on.. So if there is an issue on one car and not another then its not the software is it?!

But when there are multiple cars running from 2007 to 2009 models all with the same issue.....???

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2009, 04:50:18 pm »

We didn't ask ITG to develop any intake kit, ITG approached us when they were working on their 1.8T LCR intake kits asking if we were willing to offer advice and help them out as we know the cars/tuning. From their we continued to help with their TFSI development.

There is a valve spring issue on some of the the 08 onwards TFSI's as per the VAG TSBs, this can cause a 6000rpm + misfire. With an uprated exhaust the problem is less likely to occur. As such we have revised stage1 software available for these cars if required.

Can't get our cars to do this 5200rpm flat spot though.





But there are 2007 models with this flat spot also, and mines a 2009, but not sure when that TSB came out?

Also some people are saying there is an issue you guys are trying to map out? Any truth in this or has someone just misunderstood something wrongly some point along the way?

Will get my valves checked, and hopefully you guys are right, as I love what your software has done to my car, and I couldnt own this car without the software, but the flat spot does sorta ruin things when having fun.
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2009, 04:57:31 pm »

But when there are multiple cars running from 2007 to 2009 models all with the same issue.....???

errr so how many cars do u know exactly have this exact issue like urs?