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Need some help on starting
« on: May 10, 2015, 12:41:26 am »
Hello i have a '08 volkswagen gti, and i would like some recommendations on what parts to install on it to make it quick but stealthly. I want to make it into a sleeper. So if you have advice on what to start off with and such, please tell me. Much appreciated(:

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2015, 08:30:53 am »
Erm..

Matt black wrap to avoid enemy radar.
14" wheels.
TDI springs.
R8 engine.

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2015, 09:30:43 am »
Stage 1 remap.
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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2015, 10:29:37 am »
I would say stick with the factory air filter as an aftermarked intake will be too loud to be a true sleeper, then opt for a 3" turbo back with sports cat with middle and rear silencers, milltek are known for being very sutble and my jetex system also sounded near enough standard with both boxes, you could also fit an s3 intercooler with alloy ends as this isn't a visable upgrade but will aid with keeping intake temps down, follow all this with an rtech map and you will have a quick little gti. if your going to upgrade your brakes I would recommend the r32 front setup as they are bigger but still don't draw attention like ttrs brakes would do.

Just my opinion though  :popcornsoda:

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2015, 11:35:01 am »
I would say stage 1 remap for instant results and let the tuners explain to u how to glean more power with different mods as there are a few some of which were mentioned in previous post it just depends on how far you want to go and how deep you wallet is but as said before exhaust then remap is a good start
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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2015, 12:21:51 pm »
Remap, Precat delete and panel filter. Those in the know will still see it's a GTI and expect it to be half nippy. Those who don't, won't care. Unless you are debadging it, putting sh*t alloys on and taking off the lipstick it won't be stealthy at all IMO.

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2015, 04:39:26 pm »
1.4 badge for the back and a remap should confuse some, if you're that way inclined.

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2015, 06:11:24 pm »
I'll rebuke my original post as it was a bit sarcastic and doubtfully helpful.

The thing about making a sleeper out of a mk5 GTI is convincing people it's not a GTI, as people have said. To do that you'd have to remove the GTI bodywork - skirts, bumpers etc, and replace them with original bog-spec items as seen on 04 140 diesels and the like. You could get away with keeping the Monzas.. that would almost be a double bluff, as in "look at that Golf Match with GTI alloys, what a wannabe" etc.

Engine wise.. if you're serious then a k04 turbo and injectors with a map to suit will see 290+ bhp. Don't worry about inlet, exhaust and all the rest of it. You can run a k04 with your existing hardware and the right map and it will all remain quiet and stealthy.

But, and this is a HUGE BUT, in order to truly attain the sleeper you envisage you'll have to strip the body of all its best bits, lose money on replacement bumpers, lose money on new GTI skirts when you realise the ones you took off don't go back on neatly.... the list goes on.

For me a true sleeper is an unassuming car with an engine and chassis that far exeeds the capabilities of the oem engine and chassis of the car in question. So an engine swap and good suspension basically. Only really applies to a 'project' and the like.

If however, you were in the position to drop a highly tuned TTRS engine into a bone standard GTI, that could I suppose constitute a sleeper. Not saying that's realistic, just a principle.

Maybe just enjoy the fact you drive an (almost) iconic hot hatch and don't get hung up on downgrading it. :-)
« Last Edit: May 10, 2015, 06:16:45 pm by AJP »

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2015, 07:12:18 pm »
Thank you all for the advice, it really helped.

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2015, 07:15:34 pm »
I would say stage 1 remap for instant results and let the tuners explain to u how to glean more power with different mods as there are a few some of which were mentioned in previous post it just depends on how far you want to go and how deep you wallet is but as said before exhaust then remap is a good start
What kind of exhaust would be good? A turbo back? Catback?

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2015, 07:21:08 pm »
I'll rebuke my original post as it was a bit sarcastic and doubtfully helpful.

The thing about making a sleeper out of a mk5 GTI is convincing people it's not a GTI, as people have said. To do that you'd have to remove the GTI bodywork - skirts, bumpers etc, and replace them with original bog-spec items as seen on 04 140 diesels and the like. You could get away with keeping the Monzas.. that would almost be a double bluff, as in "look at that Golf Match with GTI alloys, what a wannabe" etc.

Engine wise.. if you're serious then a k04 turbo and injectors with a map to suit will see 290+ bhp. Don't worry about inlet, exhaust and all the rest of it. You can run a k04 with your existing hardware and the right map and it will all remain quiet and stealthy.

But, and this is a HUGE BUT, in order to truly attain the sleeper you envisage you'll have to strip the body of all its best bits, lose money on replacement bumpers, lose money on new GTI skirts when you realise the ones you took off don't go back on neatly.... the list goes on.

For me a true sleeper is an unassuming car with an engine and chassis that far exeeds the capabilities of the oem engine and chassis of the car in question. So an engine swap and good suspension basically. Only really applies to a 'project' and the like.

If however, you were in the position to drop a highly tuned TTRS engine into a bone standard GTI, that could I suppose constitute a sleeper. Not saying that's realistic, just a principle.

Maybe just enjoy the fact you drive an (almost) iconic hot hatch and don't get hung up on downgrading it. :-)
I was looking into a K04 turbo setup, with intercooler and all the pricey things that it needs but im in no obvious position to be using that much money, yet anyways. I heard that the gti needs a catch can? And i think the first bit of money i get will go into a beltronic radar detector. Ive had too many close calls. And i love my car, but i wonder how an r32 feels like power wise, any idea?

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015, 08:27:48 pm »
Turbo back exhaust with sport cat. Most of the gains made is from the down pipe and its quiet restritive. For oem get a resonator to.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2015, 08:48:33 pm »
I'll rebuke my original post as it was a bit sarcastic and doubtfully helpful.

The thing about making a sleeper out of a mk5 GTI is convincing people it's not a GTI, as people have said. To do that you'd have to remove the GTI bodywork - skirts, bumpers etc, and replace them with original bog-spec items as seen on 04 140 diesels and the like. You could get away with keeping the Monzas.. that would almost be a double bluff, as in "look at that Golf Match with GTI alloys, what a wannabe" etc.

Engine wise.. if you're serious then a k04 turbo and injectors with a map to suit will see 290+ bhp. Don't worry about inlet, exhaust and all the rest of it. You can run a k04 with your existing hardware and the right map and it will all remain quiet and stealthy.

But, and this is a HUGE BUT, in order to truly attain the sleeper you envisage you'll have to strip the body of all its best bits, lose money on replacement bumpers, lose money on new GTI skirts when you realise the ones you took off don't go back on neatly.... the list goes on.

For me a true sleeper is an unassuming car with an engine and chassis that far exeeds the capabilities of the oem engine and chassis of the car in question. So an engine swap and good suspension basically. Only really applies to a 'project' and the like.

If however, you were in the position to drop a highly tuned TTRS engine into a bone standard GTI, that could I suppose constitute a sleeper. Not saying that's realistic, just a principle.

Maybe just enjoy the fact you drive an (almost) iconic hot hatch and don't get hung up on downgrading it. :-)
I was looking into a K04 turbo setup, with intercooler and all the pricey things that it needs but im in no obvious position to be using that much money, yet anyways. I heard that the gti needs a catch can? And i think the first bit of money i get will go into a beltronic radar detector. Ive had too many close calls. And i love my car, but i wonder how an r32 feels like power wise, any idea?
A mapped tfsi makes short work of a 32. And a big shouty v6 is hardly stealthy.

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Re: Need some help on starting
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015, 08:49:31 pm »
Turbo back exhaust with sport cat. Most of the gains made is from the down pipe and its quiet restritive. For oem get a resonator to.
Agreed.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015, 08:53:29 pm »
I'll rebuke my original post as it was a bit sarcastic and doubtfully helpful.

The thing about making a sleeper out of a mk5 GTI is convincing people it's not a GTI, as people have said. To do that you'd have to remove the GTI bodywork - skirts, bumpers etc, and replace them with original bog-spec items as seen on 04 140 diesels and the like. You could get away with keeping the Monzas.. that would almost be a double bluff, as in "look at that Golf Match with GTI alloys, what a wannabe" etc.

Engine wise.. if you're serious then a k04 turbo and injectors with a map to suit will see 290+ bhp. Don't worry about inlet, exhaust and all the rest of it. You can run a k04 with your existing hardware and the right map and it will all remain quiet and stealthy.

But, and this is a HUGE BUT, in order to truly attain the sleeper you envisage you'll have to strip the body of all its best bits, lose money on replacement bumpers, lose money on new GTI skirts when you realise the ones you took off don't go back on neatly.... the list goes on.

For me a true sleeper is an unassuming car with an engine and chassis that far exeeds the capabilities of the oem engine and chassis of the car in question. So an engine swap and good suspension basically. Only really applies to a 'project' and the like.

If however, you were in the position to drop a highly tuned TTRS engine into a bone standard GTI, that could I suppose constitute a sleeper. Not saying that's realistic, just a principle.

Maybe just enjoy the fact you drive an (almost) iconic hot hatch and don't get hung up on downgrading it. :-)
I was looking into a K04 turbo setup, with intercooler and all the pricey things that it needs but im in no obvious position to be using that much money, yet anyways. I heard that the gti needs a catch can? And i think the first bit of money i get will go into a beltronic radar detector. Ive had too many close calls. And i love my car, but i wonder how an r32 feels like power wise, any idea?
A mapped tfsi makes short work of a 32. And a big shouty v6 is hardly stealthy.
I have an fsi, its an '08. I wish it was a tfsi. If i get facts wrong, go easy on me. Im new with this car and its my first car