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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2015, 08:28:17 pm »
I had access to the genuine tools over the weekend but that adjuster bolt is F***ing tight and you need that socket a locking tool to do the business!

Ok thanks, being a bit naive would a 36" breaker bar do it?

I rounded the bolt as i did not have the T40080.

I have the T40080 and a non genuine T10252 if you want to borrow them.
I used a 3/4 drive power bar with 1/2 reducer -  the angle didn't suit my 1/2 bar with standard scaff pipe lever hitting the bonnet!
My tool kit doesn't include a 36" breaker bar but as Dazza pointed out it would be a good idea to have a helper pushing the tool into the bolt as its only a shallow contact area and that's a lot of leverage.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 08:35:08 pm by doylebros »

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2015, 08:35:00 pm »
I know of one person who used a Laser locking tool and the locking pins just bent apart when undoing the adjuster bolt!
I also know of one person who used a Proto tool (Poly-head 10 socket) that just twisted and delayed the job by a day until TPS got him the correct socket!

On a similar note did you see this post
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,97848.0.html
That's a real bill for job which is quite enjoyable with the correct tools at a fraction of the dealer costs!

Yeah hear a few horror stories, there is nothing more enjoyable than a successful diy especially when you save ££ too. I have change the main thermostat that many wouldnt attempt. It's just this job the one cam bolt seems to hold a lot of risk on catching me out, really seems all or nothing! I would happily give it a go but don't want to get in a situation of having an issue with the bolt and having to result to a garage if the bolt fails. 

It's reassuring to know Dazza is about for email assistance ad tools. As mention good idea for someone to steady whilst at the other end of the breaker. Seen that thread bit concerning as they know someone there to!

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2015, 08:51:14 pm »
The original locking tool is £70 i only bought the other one as i did not want to wait to get it from germany. Lesson learnt.

I would not use a 36" breaker bar. Start with the smallest breaker you have.

Even if u mangle the bolt its not the end of the world. Just get yourself a 13mm Cobalt drill bit. I nearly f*cked the job completely messing about with sh*tty drill bits. As soon as the cobalt bits arrived they made short work of the bolt.

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2015, 10:32:08 pm »
I did change mine ok
Bought the locking kit off e bay was not to expensive
But was so quite when I changed it
Worst was undoing the cam bolt was so tight
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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2015, 09:25:50 pm »
So is this issue not so common on the later engines then?

had it replaced on my 07 plate after the warning light came on although I don't remember it being noisy

Warning light? Was it just the engine management one or is there something more specific to the timing chain/ adjuster? Thanks.

Yes it was just the engine management light. Took it to VW as it was under warranty, they diagnosed and fitted chain, tensioner and adjuster.
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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2016, 04:51:58 pm »
Do the cams need to come out to do this?  The guides I've looked at so far seem to indicate not, but stumbled onto an Audi S3 forum where a guy said there's not enough slack in the chain to remove the adjuster, the cams have to come out?

Also, the brass coloured link in the new chain - which alignment mark does that need to be lined up with?


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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2016, 05:17:19 pm »
From my understanding no they don't

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2016, 05:19:20 pm »
Do the cams need to come out to do this?  The guides I've looked at so far seem to indicate not, but stumbled onto an Audi S3 forum where a guy said there's not enough slack in the chain to remove the adjuster, the cams have to come out?

Also, the brass coloured link in the new chain - which alignment mark does that need to be lined up with?
Once you've got the locking tool in place you can remove the chain by depressing the adjust - the chain it's self doesn't need timed as that's the job of the locking tool.
Good tooling is the key to this job and removing the valve adjuster solenoid before breaking the connector - just two tiny torx 8 if I remember correctly.

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2016, 07:40:35 pm »
Cheers guys

Can you push the tensioner down by hand and lock it with a pin to slacken the chain, or does hydraulic pressure stop you from doing that?  Just don't wanna tear it all down and have to put it all back together again!

I've got all the genuine tools from VW to do this job, which folk are welcome to borrow after I've done it!

« Last Edit: March 18, 2016, 07:44:39 pm by Pudding »


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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2016, 07:44:48 pm »
Cheers guys

I've got all the genuine tools from VW to do this job, which folk are welcome to borrow after I've done it!
Remember the adjuster bolt will be tight and will worry you how tight it is - best have a pal push the bit into and hold in place the bit while your pulling down on the bar for this bit.

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2016, 07:47:00 pm »
I did my cam chain and adjuster last year easy job just takes time
Cams don't need to come out
Time it up to TDC
Take off the Engine cover and intake pipe off
Rocker cover off and cam chain housing 
Lock up the cams with the locking tool I would suggest using genuine tools and especially for the cam adjuster bolt
Undo the adjuster bolt
Pull off the adjuster tensioner too chain off replace and reverse the order putting it back together get new gaskets for the rocker cover and cam chain housing too  :happy2:
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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2016, 09:36:55 pm »
Has anyone.got prices of chain and tensioner?

Also will tps sell it to me?

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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2016, 09:42:59 pm »
About £40 each and tps will sell them to you as well  :smiley:
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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2016, 10:20:57 pm »
Good opportunity to get a cam belt be done at the same time? Anybody near the Midlands fancy doing the job for me?


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Re: Cam chain renewel axx engine code
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2016, 11:07:21 pm »
Oh thats good, vw quote me 66 for chain and 100 for tensioner!

So tps will have no problem with me not being a trade?