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Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« on: May 26, 2015, 07:39:18 pm »
Picked up the GTi today (from a Hyundai main dealer) - Paid up and drove off, once warm was sitting at the lights and it sounded like a bloody diesel in the cabin lol... I thought hold on, what's going on here, that defo was not there on the test drive...

So having read about it, it's a common problem by the sounds of it (cam chain/tensioners etc)..

Few questions -

Could the cam follower cause such a noise?  Also, when I had the test drive and put the deposit down I asked for the air con to be re-gassed, they have done that but doesn't feel very cold and the fans go like the clappers too..

I don't sound it but I am so angry and gutted, if it was the cam follower I'd do it myself, but I think it's more.

Shall I take it back to them, or you think they will ask me to go the warranty route?  After just picking it up I think they should do it.

I don't understand it wasn't happening at all on the test drive.
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2015, 07:49:00 pm »
If I was you I would read this

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,97333.msg963139/boardseen.html#new

Also the link in Dazza post!

Then I'd be wanting my money back or the item repaired.

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2015, 08:05:15 pm »
These engines are not the quietest. If you really think something is not right go back ASAP just so they are aware of the problem.

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2015, 08:10:06 pm »
Have a listen to some of these audio files http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,87599.60.html

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2015, 09:10:22 pm »
These engines are not the quietest. If you really think something is not right go back ASAP just so they are aware of the problem.

Here is a quick video of it, it's not right, shouldn't sound like this.

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2015, 09:17:24 pm »
Also, the air-con was re-gassed (so they said) and its blowing warm..  I'm gutted, really gutted.

Another thing is, on the test drive it had 1/4 of a tank and when I picked it up it was empty.  The average mpg was 4.7..  Someones had a blast.  :driver:
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 10:02:33 pm »
Had to  :signLOL:

I took the car up to my Grandad and said 'Come and listen to this' - Didn't tell him the issue, wanted to see what he thought.

He listened - 'Yeah that sounds ok to me Alan, all diesels sound like that' HAHA...

When I told him it was the Petrol, he agrees it's not right  :rolleye:
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 10:56:34 pm »
It could well be the cam chain and tensioner. What are you plans? Are you going to try and get your money back or just fix the problem?

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 06:00:05 am »
It could well be the cam chain and tensioner. What are you plans? Are you going to try and get your money back or just fix the problem?

Well they can fix it or I'll ask for my money back.  It does have 6 months gold warranty so either way I should be ok, I hope.
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 09:32:51 am »
Your best bet would be to find someone nearby on the forum that has a GTI.

Audio files won't do justice. If I got in for example and listened I could tell if it didn't sound right! There's plenty of helpful people so I'd ask!

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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 09:59:05 am »
Cam chain and tensioner...

My mate bought an '06 and it sounded just like this when warm, had the cam chain and tensioner replaced and noise is gone. These engines do make a tappety sound caused by the high-pressure injectors, but not like this!
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 10:59:21 am »
Thanks guys.

I phoned them and they were very good, said they'd sort all the issues.  I mentioned the can chain and tensioner and they said they'll sort it.

As for the air con, I hope they can!
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 04:40:50 pm »
Is the noise REALLY loud in the cabin?   Heard a diesely noise from my ED30 recently but when listening to it with the bonnet up, I can't hear anything from the chain area, just the mechanical pump tapping away.

I think when the chain stretches so much, the ECU then struggles to 'see' the cam sensor, or it's static position moves out of range or something, and should fault code it?

As for the Air con, it's notoriously weak in MK5s and never really gets ice cold, but it should definitely be cold!  Yours might need a leak test with fluorescent dye.  The condenser is common as it's right at the front and gets clobbered with stones.


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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 05:50:43 pm »
Is the noise REALLY loud in the cabin?   Heard a diesely noise from my ED30 recently but when listening to it with the bonnet up, I can't hear anything from the chain area, just the mechanical pump tapping away.

I think when the chain stretches so much, the ECU then struggles to 'see' the cam sensor, or it's static position moves out of range or something, and should fault code it?

As for the Air con, it's notoriously weak in MK5s and never really gets ice cold, but it should definitely be cold!  Yours might need a leak test with fluorescent dye.  The condenser is common as it's right at the front and gets clobbered with stones.

Yeah at a standstill, like the lights it's embarrassing, I think people think I have the GT TDi made to be a GTi replica lol.

This morning from cold it was virtually silent, nice and quiet in the cabin then as soon as operating temp - clack clack it's turned into a diesel  :signLOL:

I didn't realise it never is ice cold but on the way to the dealers I left it on and it was kinda cold but still think there was more!

Hopefully it's all straight forward and they sort it out, I wrote them a little list of what I thought was wrong etc.  Bet they love me  :grin:
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Re: Diesel sounding GTI FSI-T Mk5 :(
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2015, 10:35:49 pm »
I kind of have the same problem with my engine. I still don't know whether my cam chain and tensioner is ok or not tbh! I've just kind of ignored it for a while. It's not really loud in the cabin, you can definitely hear it chugging away but I'm.Not sure if it's the chain. When you lift the bonnet, there's a definitely a tick but it's high pitched, Im pretty sure that's the injectors.. but when you close the bonnet the pitch seems to get lower and it could be a diesely sound so i don't really know!