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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #165 on: January 02, 2013, 04:09:44 pm »
thanks a mill Rex that's very helpful! My plan is to do max 1 track day a month and have only 1 set of tyres on monzas 2 so the tyres must be able to cope on wet/cold in winter months etc. Also I do 12k miles annually so ideally this one set of tyres should be ok for 1 year of driving daily and occassional track days.

My previous tyres were conti sports 3 and lasted around 25 k km and 1 track day.

Second set of tyres is not an option now as I will be doing only 12 track days max in a year. Unless I will discover that cost of regular tires due to wear exceeds maintaining two sets of tyres with new alloys as only have 1 set...

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #166 on: January 02, 2013, 05:56:58 pm »
Well, my F1 Asymmetric 1 lasted 30k miles (and still had 4 mm thread when I sold them). During this time I've done 3 or 4 track days.
If I was in your position I would buy some F1 Asymmetric 1.  :drinking:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #167 on: January 03, 2013, 06:17:13 am »
2. If you can afford to, buy both a semislick and a road tire. The semislick are far better than the normal road tire on a track that has very good grip.
Concerning longevity, I was really surprised of how well the Asymmetric 1 behaved. As long as you are not killing the car (mostly with heavy understeer) it should be ok.

I'd even say if you can afford semis you can afford two sets of tyres as well.
It doesn't make any sense to drive semis on street as they are both relatively
bad in the wet (at least after some heat cycles) AND expensive.


thanks a mill Rex that's very helpful! My plan is to do max 1 track day a month and have only 1 set of tyres on monzas 2 so the tyres must be able to cope on wet/cold in winter months etc. Also I do 12k miles annually so ideally this one set of tyres should be ok for 1 year of driving daily and occassional track days.

Second set of tyres is not an option now as I will be doing only 12 track days max in a year. Unless I will discover that cost of regular tires due to wear exceeds maintaining two sets of tyres with new alloys as only have 1 set...

With track days every month (which isn't few) you'd most probably both miss
the grip of semis and wear your summer tyres more than most semis. To be
honest personally I find driving on track with street tyres annoying.

Get a soft summer tyre (good on wet) and a second cheap/used set of wheels
with dedicated tyres like AD08, R1-R, V70A or PS Cup. I'd even say "Direzza",
but I promise you won't spend the money.
If you need to save more money get some cheap 17" wheels. Tyres are cheaper
and there's also the Bridgestone RE070 available in 225/45 R17 at a good price.
Sadly they don't make it in 18" or in 235/45 or 235/40 R17 .
« Last Edit: January 03, 2013, 06:22:24 am by the bruce »
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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #168 on: January 04, 2013, 11:56:09 pm »
ordered assymetrics today!

Got a track day booked for 20th Jan!

Bring on the sun shine

Cheers for all opinions

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #169 on: May 16, 2013, 11:44:27 pm »
Just recieved some Michelin Pilot sport Cup 235/40-18" for the front and as daily drive tyres, looking forward to see if Tony is right about them, plan being they will go along to the track and be backup when the R888 wears out.  :happy2:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #170 on: May 17, 2013, 02:00:02 pm »
Pilot sport Cup now fitted, an easy tyre to fit and to my surprice i saw their treadwear is 80  :surprised:
Lowest treadwear i have seen before is 100 on the R888.

On the way home i didn't have to turn ESP off due to tyre slip as i have had to do with all other tyres except the R888, so looking promising so far  :evilgrin:










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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #171 on: May 26, 2013, 08:09:42 am »
Ad048 are 80 wear too

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #172 on: May 26, 2013, 08:16:33 am »
Ad048 are 80 wear too

i must admit i consider the A048 as a replacement for my R888 when they are done, seems a lot on here are using them  :smiley:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #173 on: May 26, 2013, 10:34:04 am »
A fine choice, I love those tyres. They like camber to really get that sticky outer edge working.

I remember doing a track day at Anglesey when I first got them, put them on when it dried out and the difference from the PS2s was night and day. I swapped back to drive home and nearly understeered into the sea, totally had to reprogram my brain again.

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #174 on: May 26, 2013, 12:04:53 pm »
A fine choice, I love those tyres. They like camber to really get that sticky outer edge working.

I remember doing a track day at Anglesey when I first got them, put them on when it dried out and the difference from the PS2s was night and day. I swapped back to drive home and nearly understeered into the sea, totally had to reprogram my brain again.

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Just to clarify Tony, is it the PSC or the a048 you are referring to?  :smiley:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #175 on: May 26, 2013, 07:20:26 pm »
PSC.

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #176 on: May 26, 2013, 10:52:10 pm »
Still one of the very best semis.  :happy2:

Just wonder why you wanna drive them daily, Jake. Or is it just kind of Danish humor?   :laugh:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #177 on: May 27, 2013, 12:05:00 pm »
Still one of the very best semis.  :happy2:

Just wonder why you wanna drive them daily, Jake. Or is it just kind of Danish humor?   :laugh:

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I don't drive that many kilometers daily anymore and with the Lo4xx grip in the front tyres is a priority, besides they can be stand ins when i go on track days and wear my front r888 out  :happy2:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #178 on: May 27, 2013, 03:14:35 pm »
Hi Chaps,

Jus stuck a set of Advan AD08s on mine for the summer (few days we actually get) and there is a great difference between them and the Toyo T1rs that i had on. one there is a little heat in them they dont half hold on!.

I am running 17s (standars alloys) and bought the tyres early in Jan from blackcircles and they were £90 a tyre today they are £113.10 a tyre.
 little tip, buy your summer tyres in the winter they are cheaper.  :happy2:

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Re: track day tyres : FAQ
« Reply #179 on: May 27, 2013, 06:28:38 pm »
I have just ordered the Yokohama AD08 for the rear of the golf hopefully i'll get them in 235/40-18" but they are not normally sold in Denmark, otherwise it'll be in 225/40-18"   :wink:

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