GTI Forge TWINtake air intake - Review....

[RedRobin]

Hey Red

Did you ever get a reply from Forge about the fitting instructions regarding with the twintake?

still running well with yours mate?

....Hey  

Prompted by your post, I've just been speaking to Forge (again!) and apparently the downloadable instructions pdf has been updated.

I several days ago updated/revised my original post in this thread (under "Installation") with both cutaway filter illustration and text.

I'm now waiting for Forge to update everyone concerned who has filters the 'wrong' way around. I want official words either posted directly by Forge UK (HQ) or that I can quote exactly. I keep receiving PM's on the subject too!

I am reassured by Forge by email and in conversation that no harm will come from 'incorrect' filter orientation and no known loss of performance either. I can quote those words if it helps.

Mine's working fine too  

[cheungy]

I was getting issues with mine but yea all done and dusted :) let me know when you go stage2+ matey

I'll take alook at the instructions..the one i downloaded had the twintake wrapped.

[RedRobin]

let me know when you go stage2+ matey

....If you're talking to me, I have no intentions of going stage2+. Stage2 is enough for me - I see no point in pushing the performance envelope further as she's a keeper (at least until a RS3 Sportback with S-tronic comes out, and then only subject to..). I like the driveability I've got now.

[Blade]

Looked at mine today. The cone that goes to the side panel has the open end with the largest surface area nearest the slam panel......is that right?

[RedRobin]

Looked at mine today. The cone that goes to the side panel has the open end with the largest surface area nearest the slam panel......is that right?
 

^ Does this help? The arrows show the direction of air taken in from outside the car and towards the MAF.

Both of the two filters should be orientated the same way.

[prepree]

This is the pic i pulled from the instructions today, so i hope this is the right orientation



I did the same at the front slam panel also, is that how you have yours RR?

For a £350ish product this kind of takes the pi$$ for something that should be simple, I know either orientation wont cause any harm, lack of performance but still its pretty slack!

Not sure on mine at the moment, love the noise on full chat but when in D mode im not keen on the initial noise either, sounds strange, maybe iv got a loose connection or something, hard to describe the noise but it kind of sounds metallic for a brief moment then goes into suction mode!! Im guessing that isnt right??

[Blade]

This is the pic i pulled from the instructions today, so i hope this is the right orientation



I did the same at the front slam panel also, is that how you have yours RR?

For a £350ish product this kind of takes the pi$$ for something that should be simple, I know either orientation wont cause any harm, lack of performance but still its pretty slack!

Not sure on mine at the moment, love the noise on full chat but when in D mode im not keen on the initial noise either, sounds strange, maybe iv got a loose connection or something, hard to describe the noise but it kind of sounds metallic for a brief moment then goes into suction mode!! Im guessing that isnt right??

Thats how mine is prepree but its the wrong way round according to the diagram above?????

[bacillus]

I think your pic shows the "corrected" new orientation.   

[big al]

On the above picture, How do you fit the second air intake metal part to the part of the car above the headlight? I have taken out the screws, but am unsure where to go from here, It looks a bit squashed to push it in between the metal and the plastic top part. (hope that makes sense)

[RedRobin]

On the above picture, How do you fit the second air intake metal part to the part of the car above the headlight? I have taken out the screws, but am unsure where to go from here, It looks a bit squashed to push it in between the metal and the plastic top part. (hope that makes sense)

....I got your PM, Al, sorry I haven't been around to answer.

JKM fitted mine but I was there. It's a tight but not difficult fit.

[RedRobin]

This is the pic i pulled from the instructions today, so i hope this is the right orientation



I did the same at the front slam panel also, is that how you have yours RR?

For a £350ish product this kind of takes the pi$$ for something that should be simple, I know either orientation wont cause any harm, lack of performance but still its pretty slack!

....Yep, that's what Forge are now unanimously agreeing as the 'correct' filter orientation.

I too am pissed off with Forge - They told me they were sorting out what was going to happen about those of us who followed their original UK instructions and consequently have the 'incorrect' orientation. All they have done is assure me it doesn't matter but no official statement has been made on the forums as promised. I've lost faith in Forge's efficiency as a company - Typically fecking useless English! I haven't lost faith in their products. I'm getting sick of being asked questions by people which they should be answering, or at the very least they should give me something in writing which I can quote.

[prepree]

This is the pic i pulled from the instructions today, so i hope this is the right orientation



I did the same at the front slam panel also, is that how you have yours RR?

For a £350ish product this kind of takes the pi$$ for something that should be simple, I know either orientation wont cause any harm, lack of performance but still its pretty slack!

....Yep, that's what Forge are now unanimously agreeing as the 'correct' filter orientation.

I too am pissed off with Forge - They told me they were sorting out what was going to happen about those of us who followed their original UK instructions and consequently have the 'incorrect' orientation. All they have done is assure me it doesn't matter but no official statement has been made on the forums as promised. I've lost faith in Forge's efficiency as a company - Typically fecking useless English! I haven't lost faith in their products. I'm getting sick of being asked questions by people which they should be answering, or at the very least they should give me something in writing which I can quote.

Thanks for your reply Robin, yes i totally agree with what you say, especially as after spending countless hours on various forums there was never anything 100% conculusive which is shocking when you consider A, the price B the simplicity of something that should NEVER have been an issue, to say the orientation doesnt matter is a bit of a cop out in my eyes.

I can certainly say your review and posts across the pond will have help loads of people with this though.

[Forge UK]

We apologise for our lack of reply on the forum, which could make us come across as unprofessional, but we have been working hard on this behind the scenes. We will make sure this lack of communication doesn’t happen again. We agree that it seems to be a simple thing to get right, but the filter is the only part of the kit that Forge doesn’t make, and having used the BMC CDA filters before (which definitely DO fit in the ‘reverse’ orientation) we fitted our carbon canisters in the reverse orientation too. Our US office had not used BMC filters before and so fitted them in accordance with how you perceive the filter would be fitted if it weren’t boxed in i.e. with the wide end attached to the inlet pipework. It’s only in the last month that we’ve received the flow diagram from the filter manufacturers and acted upon it.

We’ve conducted many hours of testing on all of the cars that feature our twintakes, and have tried with the filters in both directions, and seen negligible difference in power or power delivery. Of course, the filtration remains unaffected by orientation. If any customer perceives that they have an issue then they should contact us at info@forgemotorsport.co.uk

We can only apologise for any misunderstanding that we may have caused.

[RedRobin]

^^^^
@ Forge UK:

Ah! Thankyou!  

Thanks for officially allaying people's concerns  .

It is a great product in my considered opinion and continues to be reliable and to give me aural pleasure as well as smooooth performance.

[RagingKileak]

I think....

I'll be getting the Forge Twintercooler and an ITG Maxogen kit shortly!! ;)

Matt