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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #120 on: November 22, 2011, 12:22:24 pm »
Nice!
How much do the discs weigh?
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #121 on: November 22, 2011, 05:33:02 pm »

Holger,

Ordered your bits today  :happy2:

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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #122 on: November 22, 2011, 10:35:24 pm »
 :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:

8 kg  :wink:
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2011, 12:02:01 am »
Fitted the brake stiffening bushes and the RS3 vents:

first get the old rubber out:



A - still one rubber
B - removed rubber (C)


then little grinding to remove rust (and after this protect the surface with antiseize):




both bronze bushes in place:




After one week or so I will be able to report how the brake feels.



As I had things apart I fitted the RS3 as well:




Removed the guards also. Hell the caliper mounts were hard to loosen !!
(needed to unbolt them to remove the splash guard - these have to be
tightened with 190 Nm)
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2011, 12:51:39 pm »
This is a very nice golf, tasteful mods :happy2:

Never knew monzas came in 19"
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #125 on: December 10, 2011, 04:42:20 pm »
Volkswagen never made the GTI with them. These Monzas are Italian
made replicas (8x19 45) and very popular in Germany.
I will sell them though. They look stunning, but they are quite heavy.

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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #126 on: December 10, 2011, 10:28:17 pm »
Nice one bruce!
One question: are the brake good enough for circuit use (I had GTI brakes and they seemed a little bit too small and I have less bhp and kg than you)?
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2011, 12:42:04 am »
Too small for GP circuits, but I hope strong enough for
autocross and Nordschleife.

With a set of RS4-2, RS19, PFC01, PFC97 or MX-72 it
should perform quite sufficient.

Furthermore I don't feel I am good enough to brake
Ring records. I don't have much routine on the Ring.

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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2011, 07:51:48 am »
I have RS 4-2 on my AP Racing PRO 5000+ and they are quiet and have very good initial bite (even at -5deg) but while hard braking they are far from the Carbotechs I had on my S3/R32 brakes. Even Pagid says they are better suited for use on rear brakes to complement RS19 or 29 on the front brakes. RS19 and 29 are endurance pads with medium friction, much better than 4-2 but still weaker than Carbotech. However, I've heard a set of RS29 while very expensive, lasted an entire 24h race on very powerfull racecars (like DTM or lemans) so on our cars they should do for like 10 trackdays wich is 2-3 times more than Carbotech. The RS14 & 15 are Pagid's highest friction compounds to be used where high disc temps are expected or one needs very high brake torque

Some friction comparison :

http://www.pagid-brake-pads.co.uk/material-specifications.php
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #129 on: December 11, 2011, 10:20:31 am »
Too bad the RS29 are ~350 Pounds for the GTI caliper.  :sad1:
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #130 on: December 11, 2011, 12:58:57 pm »
I tend to get the Pagid Blue (< 200,-- €) or the Endless (~ 350,-- €)
and I will further improve ventilation before any trackday.

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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #131 on: December 11, 2011, 02:09:30 pm »
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #132 on: December 11, 2011, 03:29:36 pm »
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 03:32:40 pm by the bruce »
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #133 on: December 11, 2011, 08:13:05 pm »
Quote from: the bruce on December 11, 2011, 12:58:57 pm
I will further improve ventilation before any trackday.

That is also on my list. Please don't be a stranger and afert (or before) doing this please share some info with us.
At the moment I can't find a bolt on solution. Did you find any?

Quote from: the bruce on December 11, 2011, 03:29:36 pm
236,68 € for RS29 at www.AT-RS.de :

http://shop.at-rs.de/index.php?page=product&pID=57197&car_id=d481fbe55e77099eef411a60f2d36fca&acPath=348_351


RS4-2 are 190,14 € :

http://shop.at-rs.de/index.php?page=product&pID=57198&car_id=d481fbe55e77099eef411a60f2d36fca&acPath=348_351

Glad they are not that expensive!
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Re: Bruce' black one: airbase & AutoX pics
« Reply #134 on: December 11, 2011, 10:02:25 pm »
Quote from: rex on December 11, 2011, 08:13:05 pm
That is also on my list. Please don't be a stranger and afert (or before) doing this please share some info with us.
At the moment I can't find a bolt on solution. Did you find any?

Of course I will.  :smiley:

No p&p indeed. I found some pics from someone who glued ducts behind
the open GTI fog grills and fitted a hose. I will do something similar.

You could fit some fog light grills to your GT and fit a hose as well. The only
difficult question is how to fit the hose to the brake/hub assembly.

Isa-Racing sell a aluminium duct, but it doesent fit the Golf hubs p&p and it
is quite expensive.

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