Whats the consensus on DSG on here

[rich83]

I'm finding there is one huge disadvantage to having DSG...

It's limiting my choice of what to get next as i simply no longer consider anything with a manual box 

Doppelkupplung 

[edd666999]

i will never get anything without a DSG style box again.

[Beddie]

For the guys on track days how have you found DSG?

When in manual is it possible to downshift as and when you want and let the box switch up on the limiter automatically, or once your in manual do you have to manually change up yourself everytime.  If so that'd be handy as you cant knock the up shifts at all, but i found the DSG didnt change down quick enough when you braked hard, so you could catch it out when you went back on the gas. Notable on roundabouts when you try to nip out into a gap.

Also how much does the DSG 'learn' your driving style?

I've done 4 'Ring trips in mine and drove them all in Manual mode, been caught out a couple of times holding the gear too long and the car just changes up itself with no drama, downshifts are available any time although it will change back up straight away if your on the redline...

I find the box is in lazy commute mode after a week of the wife driving when i get to play at the weekends, couple of hours of my driving and its in my 'mode', after track work it becomes quite savage on the road for a while 

[Janner_Sy]

So the DSG not changing down quick enough when decelerating rapidly, will that change as that was the only flaw i found.  Not to much of an issue as the ay i see it, i can tap the gears down myself if i need the power

[Thor]

Ed30 has dsg first car i've had with any kind of auto box and i love it.   the mrs MK6 gti is a manual and i love that as well. 

Have to say that it feels to me like you can get more engine braking with the manual box on the downshifts.  as i think has been said you have to drive them in a different way to get the best out of each boxes charateristics.

[MAT ED30]

For the guys on track days how have you found DSG?

When in manual is it possible to downshift as and when you want and let the box switch up on the limiter automatically, or once your in manual do you have to manually change up yourself everytime.  If so that'd be handy as you cant knock the up shifts at all, but i found the DSG didnt change down quick enough when you braked hard, so you could catch it out when you went back on the gas. Notable on roundabouts when you try to nip out into a gap.

Also how much does the DSG 'learn' your driving style?

I've done 4 'Ring trips in mine and drove them all in Manual mode, been caught out a couple of times holding the gear too long and the car just changes up itself with no drama, downshifts are available any time although it will change back up straight away if your on the redline...

I find the box is in lazy commute mode after a week of the wife driving when i get to play at the weekends, couple of hours of my driving and its in my 'mode', after track work it becomes quite savage on the road for a while 

you said it all in one line why i hate auto boxes  takes skill to drive a car with a good gearbox 

[Beddie]

For the guys on track days how have you found DSG?

When in manual is it possible to downshift as and when you want and let the box switch up on the limiter automatically, or once your in manual do you have to manually change up yourself everytime.  If so that'd be handy as you cant knock the up shifts at all, but i found the DSG didnt change down quick enough when you braked hard, so you could catch it out when you went back on the gas. Notable on roundabouts when you try to nip out into a gap.

Also how much does the DSG 'learn' your driving style?

I've done 4 'Ring trips in mine and drove them all in Manual mode, been caught out a couple of times holding the gear too long and the car just changes up itself with no drama, downshifts are available any time although it will change back up straight away if your on the redline...

I find the box is in lazy commute mode after a week of the wife driving when i get to play at the weekends, couple of hours of my driving and its in my 'mode', after track work it becomes quite savage on the road for a while  

you said it all in one line why i hate auto boxes   takes skill to drive a car with a good gearbox  

I was however on both occasions getting carried away overtaking luddites unsettling their cars mid-corner trying to change gear...   

[Hurdy]

Hate hate hate dsg, ultimately a personal thing for me but I enjoy the drive and process of a gear change 

Clutch in.......lose all power......change gear.........re-apply power...head jerks backwards......Go!!!!! = Manual gearbox process

Press fast pedal..go..next gear..go..next gear..go....gone!!! = DSG

Don't confuse manual with lack of talent 

Like I said it's a personal choice, I didn't say dsg is bad.. Just that I hate it.

I've raced dsg r32s at inters and beat them all except for a turbo'd one.

I never would VC

Don't get me wrong, I like the odd blast in a manual, but always liked the DSG just that little bit more.

[RedRobin]

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The DSG is the best of both worlds. Drive, think and shift exactly the same as a conventional manual, but pop into auto for urban or traffic jams. You can drive for much longer too as your left leg doesn't get tired.

There's a skill to driving DSG too.

I would never consider owning any car without DSG, S-tronic, or equivalent, ever again. It's been even better since its Revo DSG remap.

[Janner_Sy]

do you do all the up/down shifting yourself on track RR or do you just downshift yourself, and let the DSG shift up itself?
Im  not sure how ill do it, until i have a good few goes.  Probably end up going full manual

[RedRobin]

do you do all the up/down shifting yourself on track RR or do you just downshift yourself, and let the DSG shift up itself?
Im  not sure how ill do it, until i have a good few goes.  Probably end up going full manual

....I first tried using S-mode on Nordschleife but I much prefer being more in control by deciding when I want to shift gear irrespective of up or down. I think Hurdy has tried both but anyway I prefer staying in M all the time except in 20/30/40 limit zones and traffic queues.

[Poverty]

I'm finding there is one huge disadvantage to having DSG...

It's limiting my choice of what to get next as i simply no longer consider anything with a manual box 

Havent driven a dsg, but been in a dsg car and think its amazing, but at the same time the lack of involvement when driving in a straightline just doesnt seem right.

Manual for fun, dsg for straightline speed.

The VAG ring racers still say the manual cars are quicker round the track than the dsg also.

[simonp]

Never even started considering DSG and found it rather irksome how that bloody gearbox halved my choice of cars when I was looking to buy. I want to be in the gear I want, when I want it, even if it is the wrong one! I also like that I can go from 2nd to 5th in one go if I'm in an economical mood (that doesn't happen often, mind!).

I'd read up on how it worked, its characteristics, the pros/cons, the amount of faulty units etc and all these were enough for me to not even look at DSG cars. I've been in 2 or 3 as a passenger and find the way the gears are seamlessly slurred into one another really soulless, to be honest.

[RedRobin]

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You may never like DSG enough to buy one, Simon, but I think you ought to drive a DSG in Manual mode one day. I might even let you drive mine.

[AlanEdition30]

I used my edition 30 dsg last July for some alpine driving in Germany Switzerland and Italy and it was brilliant. Did 2000 miles in 6 days.
I then drove from Zurich to home which took 13 hours and i didnt really feel tired at all. I obviously havent tried the same trip in a manual but i bet i would of been shattered  

The car was in D when i wanted to cruise and relax and it was in M when i wanted to have some fun through the never ending twisties  
DSG..... what a gearbox