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BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« on: August 22, 2009, 02:50:45 pm »
The standard instructions are below.

http://www.bshspeedshop.com/instructions/fsi_catch_can.pdf

I used these instructions and due to not being happy with the location, and lack of looking correct due to the can touching the rear of the headlight, the charcoal cannister, one of the air con pipes and the screen wash pipeline, or a combination of any of these. See picture below.



 I decided to look at an alternative site.

The kit comes with the following:

A. Manifold plate (Rocker cover blanking plate).
B. Inlet Manifold Block Off Plug
C. 3 Set screws for Block Off Plug
D. One O-Ring for Block Off Plug
E. Catch Can
F. Rubber hose
G. Four clamps
H. two 90 degree fittings
I. One Allen Head Blockoff Plug
J. Catch Can Bracket
K. One dell clamp
L. One allen head screw with matching lock nut

1.  First prepare the engine

Remove the intake using a T20 torx driver.  Remove the 2 screws at the sides, and using some mole grips, squeeze the FB clamp on the intake hose and remove.

Remove the plug on the MAF - Top left, and undo the 2 clips on the MAF housing (stainless springs top left and just behind the top left corner)

Undo the 2 clips holding the pipeline on the left side of the cover.

Starting at the top right corner give the cover a sharp tug, and remove the cover.

Getting rid of the OEM parts

Remove the Accordion hose that runs bewteen the Intake manifold right corner to the PCV assembly and fit the blanking plug (BSH instructions step 1 and 2)

Then using a torx driver T25 remove the OEM PCV assy from the rocker cover.  You should then be left with



Note the Orange gasket, and me holding the breather hose out of the way. 

Prepare the manifold plate (A).

Fit the two 90* unions, I used a dab of sealant as I screwed then in.

You will need a 17mm spanner to fit these unions.  I did take a take, but it did not come out.  After you have fitted them you will see they protrude the rear by a few mm.  I trimmed this off with a razor blade.  to leave them flush at the rear.  DO NOT overtighten!

Leave the unions in the configuratuion below. in this pic you will also see the large union (silver fitted)



Then you can offer the Manifold plate and fir as per pic above.  The Screw in the Top right required a small flat to be filed on the washer, as the large silver union overlaps the hole by a mm or so.

Tighten the screws gradually, so as to fit the plate evenly.  also the screws are threaded into plastic, so be careful with how tight you go.

You should then be as below.



The catch tank fit.

I looked at the area in front of the battery, and had thought of using the threaded brass spigot just in front of the battery, but dismissed it due to the tank sitting too high.  I also looked at the area behind the passenger headlight, but would have been too messy.

I decided to fit the bracket to the plastic spigot as shown in top mid picture below.



Bracket and catch tank fitted in pic below.



Routing the lines

I decided to route as below.  Be careful about the hoses chafing on the fuel pump and various parts of the engine.



Various pics











I do think that this fit is far better, looks far more OEM, and allows greater access to the can.  I also think that you would be able to fit the greater capacity can in the same way.  Be careful if you are thinking about fitting an intake similar to the ITG one Steve P has been trialling.

Hope that this helps you make an informed choice.

Dave R
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« Last Edit: August 22, 2009, 03:35:37 pm by stokeballoon »

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2009, 03:25:42 pm »
Something seems to be missing from your write up...   :smiley:
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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2009, 03:35:18 pm »
Lots missing!
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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 03:37:46 pm »

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 03:52:11 pm »
Nice and different   :happy2:

I know it's after the fact but did you consider and discount using the mirror mounting position on the right hand side?



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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 03:54:15 pm »
I did, I didn't like the way you have to take 2 screws out and sandwich the plate between the slam panel (radiator support) and the chassis.  Looks a bit wrong.  The can also sits too high IMHO.


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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 03:58:49 pm »
was thhinking it looked like a good position i might try, but i want the twin take and reckon that would get in the way.

i think it'll be the same for anyone with evoms, ITG, VF engineering, forge twintake etc

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 04:00:16 pm »
I think you could also turn the bracket upside down and fit the Catch can lower still.


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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2009, 05:05:47 pm »
....

Dave, this is excellent Quality!! - Exactly the info I needed to know.

I assume then that the BSH kit's included hoses are long enough. And conversely could be shortened for a slightly different off side (driver's side) location.

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2009, 05:08:40 pm »
....

Dave, this is excellent Quality!! - Exactly the info I needed to know.

I assume then that the BSH kit's included hoses are long enough. And conversely could be shortened for a slightly different off side (driver's side) location.

:drinking:

The supplied hose is about 4 ft long, you just cut the 2 hoses to the required length from that.

I will still fit OEM style clamps (the heater hose type) when I can get to the stealers.
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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 05:10:05 pm »
Can you post the numbers of the clamps you use please Dave.  :happy2:
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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 05:12:07 pm »
Will do Stu.  Not found them as yet.
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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2009, 05:46:26 pm »
Nice work QD  :congrats: :happy2:

Two questions:

1. Do you think that location would be suitable with my 'Carbonio' style intake?
2. When can you do mine?  :laugh:

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2009, 06:03:08 pm »
Will do Stu.  Not found them as yet.
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I reckon the spring clips like the one going to the lower pipe on the expansion tank would be just right  :happy2:

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Re: BSH Catch tank alternative fit.
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2009, 06:03:41 pm »
Nice work QD  :congrats: :happy2:

Two questions:

1. Do you think that location would be suitable with my 'Carbonio' style intake?

2. When can you do mine?  :laugh:


1. It looks as if it would clear a Carbonio ram-style intake but could fall foul of other lollipop types as QD suggested.

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